Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

[Jedi Marso]

I gave it 7. The actor playing Scotty did a great job but points deducted for another case of small Starfleet syndrome,

I'm disappointed they went this route. Since I figured they were going to eventually, a part of me was hoping they'd tap Chris Doohan from Star Trek Continues for the role. Snowball's chance of that happening, I know, but I thought he really captured the look and mannerisms of Scotty. This new kid, well, at least he's got the native burr.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Gorn emblem used in this episode (and Prodigy) comes from the 1997 Starfleet academy game

 

[IMC Headquarters]

After these events, I'll bet new colonists research their destinations more meticulously.

 

[Jedi Marso]

10. Engrossing from start to end, well, intermission?

Physics comment: Cayuga is dead in space, why is there gravity? Should be debris and bodies floating, not all on the floor.

I had this thought as well, but if enough batteries were functioning to provide emergency power and life support, powering the grav plates might be considered an essential function, especially since internal injuries are most likely a death sentence in a null-gee field. In a crisis / triage situation, some gravity (even at a reduced level) would be considered a life-saving measure.

 

[Tuskin38]

When Spock is placing the thrusters, the TOS theme was playing

 

[Jedi Marso]

That was good! A satisfying end of a mixed season. The courtroom and the crossover are still just a little better, but this one had great moments, working tension, and good solutions to problems. And this Scotty may fit even better than Pegg did. The adult Gorn looked very similar to the 2013 Kelvin game ones.

I love Simon Pegg but he never sold as Scotty for me. I kept expecting him to advocate heading to the Winchester for a pint.

 

[TheFlutteringHorde]

The Aliens influence is still there, but the Gorn are starting to remind me more of the Scarran from Farscape the more we learn about them.

 

[Jedi Marso]

2. In the planet, Kirk’s faced with the Gorn captain, which he describes in the log voiceover as “a creature the Metrons called a Gorn”. That would traditionally be taken as his never having heard of the Gorn before — but in context, he says it just after first seeing the classic humanoid rubber-skin Gorn for the first time. Which looks completely different from the Gorn Starfleet has encountered before! Hence, “a creature the Metrons call a Gorn”. It’s not that Gorn are unfamiliar, it’s that the Gorn have apparently changed, and that’s why we didn’t realize it was them at first.

I'm okay with the Gorn looking different than they did in TOS, with the cheap rubber suit. It's just an FX upgrade, like the ridge-headed Klingons appearing without warning in 1979 in TMP. The problem I have is one of continuity: every implication in TOS was that this was the first encounter with the Gorn, regardless of the Gorn's knowledge of humankind / The Federation and their impressive EW capabilities. You would expect that of another starfaring civilization.

People are bending over backwards trying to shoehorn Arena with what we've seen so far in SNW. I don't, for the life of me, understand why the showrunners didn't just name them something different. They could have kept EVERYTHING else the same, and had the same stories, and eliminated all the canon / continuity howling from the fanbase. But maybe they know the fanbase better than we know ourselves, and figure that the buzz, conversation, debate, and fan howling just serves to promote the product. I dunno.

So if SNW happens to follow up with a story in which the Gorn mutate or encompass more than one species or something, all will fit — probably even if they don’t.

At this point, I don't need the Gorn to be a multi-species like the Xindi, ruled by more intelligent overlords, or anything like that. I think we should just accept this as a new canon and let the show-runners use them as they have been. The ship has pretty much sailed at this point, and, as it happens... Time Traveling Romulan!

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Explain!

Looking at a wait for probably 2 years before the conclusion of the the FINALE.

 

[Professor Moriarty]

Scotty's on board the Enterprise now. Everyone's chances for survival have just doubled.

Except Pelia’s.

 

[Okmyx]

Some random observations..

How is spock maneuvering in space without a jetpack?

Why is spock the only person who can place the rockets on the saucer?

Spocks placement of the rockets seems pretty random.

"Break in case of gorn" haha.

Zombie movie reference. Nice.

 

[Jedi Marso]

After these events, I'll bet new colonists research their destinations more meticulously.

And perhaps inside the UFP Treaty Exploration zone?

 

[cooleddie74]

Cestus III was probably a victim of this same mistake if we assume that the planet was settled by colonists before SNW and has been in place for at least a little while.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

I love SNW, but, boy, am I bored of the Gorn.

I say that about Daleks and NOBODY listens.

 

[SG-17]

This it the problem I have with prequels. I feel ZERO tension with that cliffhanger, I am not champing at the bit to see the conclusion. SNW is enjoyable for sure, but whatever man.

 

[Jedi Marso]

Some random observations..

1. How is spock maneuvering in space without a jetpack?

2. Why is spock the only person who can place the rockets on the saucer?

3. Spocks placement of the rockets seems pretty random.

1. I thought he was wearing one, or had one integrated into his suit.

2. I don't think he actually was, but given the motion of the saucer prior to de-orbit and the precise calculations involved to make the saucer come down right on top of the Gorn beacon, Spock could probably do that math in his head, on the fly, completing the placements far fast than another crewmember could working with a hand-held computer or what not. We have to recall Spock's mental capabilities from TOS, like working out interphase calculations in his head while simultaneously conducting a conversation with McCoy.

On the other hand, his logic probably failed him a bit here. He wanted to go looking for Chapel, and selling himself as the only one capable of performing this mission was his ticket to jetting over to the saucer. Fortunately for everyone, he was the Vulcan for the job.

3. Not so random as probably very carefully calculated to achieve a very picky result. To someone not doing the math that Spock was doing, it probably would look random.

That's how I saw it, anyway.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Well with no Picard or Disco to work on, maybe the teams might be able to pick up some time on that delay, assuming s31 doesn't get in the way. Makes me nostalgic for the old days when a season end was still to be filmed even after that season's broadcast had started.

The second part was probably mostly filmed. Remember how in the old days, in the part two that opened a new season, the actors looked the same, and then in the next episode they would always seems just a little older and have slightly different hairstyles?

 

[Romulan_spy]

Predictable but definitely enjoyable. I was engaged in what was happening in every scene. And seeing Scotty was great. The spacewalk scene with Spock reminded me of JJ Abrams Trek but in a good way. And the warp-in effect is the same as JJ Trek.

I still don't really care for the redesign of the Gorn. Obviously, you can't do the guy in a rubber suit like in TOS. But I feel like the xenomorphs from Aliens is too much of a departure from TOS. I feel like the Gorn should be a little bit more humanoid.

And yeah, the episode does suffer a bit from small starfleet syndrome with Scotty just happening to be there. Space is really big so the odds of Scotty happening to be there is very small. And I wish SNW would take more chances telling original stories rather than shoehorning in Kirk and now Scotty. It feels like the show will become reimagined TOS instead of being an original series set before TOS. And I feel bad for Ortegas who is just the token pilot. She gets a few scenes sitting at the helm or piloting a shuttle finally. She is not getting any character development.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

Except Pelia’s.

"Don't grieve for me. I have lived a looong life. I have no regrets. Oh my...is that...a koala?"

 

[Captain Jollydark]

That's what I was going to say. The gravity works for a period of time even with complete power loss.

Also Chapel was trying to make sure emergency life-support stayed functioning. I think we're meant to assume she was going to look for survivors. Saw the Enterprise, used her training (line of sight signaling with flashlight - or tried anyway.)