Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x08 - "Under the Cloak of War"
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Well, unfortunately the precedent was set back in TOS.
Indeed.
I don’t think he should. But he should face the consequences for his actions. As I mentioned pages ago, justice should be aimed to rehabilitate people, not punish them.
Not necessarily. Redemption is often a process, what may have started as self-serving posturing may have become the truth. See when they said that sometime you fake being somebody until you actually become them.
literally nobody is saying that.
And we’re still on the “being harassed verbally justifies murder” thingy? Really?!
no doubt, it always sucked big time!
I'm more talking about what people are meaning when discussing it here. It seems that harassement means less and less here, and so should be treated with kid gloves.
Enlighten me further then. What would M'Benga's rehabilitation look lik based upon what Trek does?
Indeed. I'm always a little amused by the idea that it should be improved upon now.
Somebody did. Not sure you're reading the whole thread or just picking and choosing who to verbally harass. You're also being willfully obtuse in order to continue beating a dead horse.
Yes. I think it absolutely does. I want to murder someone right now.
Do we get three guesses?
I’m no expert on prison systems, but there are plenty pf options to draw inspiration from around the world.
By the way, his lawyer could well claim temporary insanity and there are a lot of extenuating circumstances here.
I saw someone on Twitter claim that making M'Benga an ex-soldier similar to Steve Rogers amounts to Marvel-ification of Star Trek.
Apparently Marvel has a monopoly on action now.
Apparently Marvel has a monopoly on action now.
Seriously???
It's Twitter.
X is gonna give it to ya and hard if you spend too much time on there.
X is gonna give it to ya and hard if you spend too much time on there.
Yeah, I think they said something like they just want to see medical officers be medical officers, as if every other medical officer in the franchise is also an ex-soldier.
M'Benga is hardly the first Trek doctor with combat skills. I'd count Crusher and Bashir on that list as well.
They may not be quite as badass as M'Benga, but they can hold their own in a fight.
They may not be quite as badass as M'Benga, but they can hold their own in a fight.
On an actual US navy ship, the CO of a ship or a flag officer or above arriving or departing doesn't only get a bosun whistle, but also gets, depending on rank or office, up to 8 rings (four sets of two with a pause in between the two) of the bell over the ships intercom, with their title but not their name and the word "arriving" or "departing."
In this example it would be: "Whistle, ding-ding, ding-ding, ding-ding, ding-ding Ambassador, United Federation of Planets, Arriving." It would be broadcast over the ships speakers.
I've found the tweet again:
"me starting snw: its my boy m’benga!!!! can’t wait to hear his stories of his intership in vulcan snw: m’benga is an ex war terrorist à la steve rogers"
followed by:
"the marvelification of star trek needs to stop im so serious"
Ignoring whether or not it's actually true, I don't see the relevance of Marvel. Do they think only Marvel has war criminals?
"me starting snw: its my boy m’benga!!!! can’t wait to hear his stories of his intership in vulcan snw: m’benga is an ex war terrorist à la steve rogers"
followed by:
"the marvelification of star trek needs to stop im so serious"
Ignoring whether or not it's actually true, I don't see the relevance of Marvel. Do they think only Marvel has war criminals?
Phlox also served aboard a Denobulan military vessel at some point before joining the Interstellar Medical Exchange. So I imagine he had some limited combat experience and mentioned it in an episode.
And one interesting variation of that is when the CO is arriving or departing his own command, the command's name is substituted for the CO's rank. For example, if Pike was coming on board 1701, it would be
"Whistle, ding-ding, ding-ding Enterprise, Arriving."
edit to add: Just recalled something. Once when we were in Hawai'i, the commander in chief of the Pacific Fleet gave us a brief inspection and he was piped aboard as "CINCPACFLT*, arriving" and "departing."
*(pronounced 'sink pack fleet')
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The proper example of rendering honors / side boys is near the end (time 1H 36M into the movie) of the movie The Final Countdown when the ship returns to its home port. The enlisted sailors standing at each side as the VIPs board are the sideboys. The number of rings of the bell is equal to the total number of sideboys.
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