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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x04 - "Memento Mori"

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Yeah I haven't seen that ep in a long time but I distinctly recall Kirk mentioning he met Pike once. I believe it was briefly So Kirk meeting Pike won't break canon.

Kirk never said he met Pike "once". He only mentioned that single instance when Mendez asked if he had met Pike.

They could have met a dozen times, but the time Kirk mentioned could have just been the last time he met Pike.
 
Kirk never said he met Pike "once". He only mentioned that single instance when Mendez asked if he had met Pike.

They could have met a dozen times, but the time Kirk mentioned could have just been the last time he met Pike.


I just checked the episode. Kirk said when asked if he ever met Chris Pike. Kirks answer "We met when he was promoted to Fleet Captain. I took over the Enterpise from him. Spock served with him for several years." So that bit of dialogue makes it clear they met by the time Pike was promoted not before . So if they meet earlier it breaks canon. This show though I consider separate from TOS anyway
 
I just checked the episode. Kirk said when asked if he ever met Chris Pike. Kirks answer "We met when he was promoted to Fleet Captain. I took over the Enterpise from him. Spock served with him for several years." So that bit of dialogue makes it clear they met by the time Pike was promoted not before . So if they meet earlier it breaks canon. This show though I consider separate from TOS anyway

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"We met..." doesn't mean it was the first time, or that Kirk wasn't being vague anyway.

You ever hear the term "so, we meet again"?
 
I just checked the episode. Kirk said when asked if he ever met Chris Pike. Kirks answer "We met when he was promoted to Fleet Captain. I took over the Enterpise from him. Spock served with him for several years." So that bit of dialogue makes it clear they met by the time Pike was promoted not before . So if they meet earlier it breaks canon. This show though I consider separate from TOS anyway
SO, all They have to do to appease the Canonist's is make sure that at some point in the second season episode Kirk appears in, Admiral April offers Pike a promotion to Fleet Captain.

Which Pike ends up refusing at that point, and all is well.

Then later on down the road, when he does accept the promotion, Kirk will meet him again and take over as the Captain of the Enterprise.

Easy-peasy
 
Wasn't it?
I thought it was.

Btw I just recently rewatched "The menagerie" again - and it's super obvious Kirk & Pike never met - at one point, Kirk stops the recording and asks wheelchair Pike if the guy on screen really is him.

Haven't seen the episode in awhile, but wasn't that a question asked during the hearing?

So yeah... I love SNW. But at the same time, I would definitely love it even more if it didn't try to stretch and bend canon at every chance. I like it most when it introduces new stuff, new characters, new aliens. I'm kinda' over all type of legacy characters (similar as to in Star Wars).

Me too. I understand having Spock there and MAYBE Uhura, but the Chapel I'm seeing now is nothing like the Chapel I saw on TOS. The producers could have given that character a different name.
 
You are correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_Mori_(The_X-Files)

It is a fascinating title.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori

And for how it applies to Pike

TLDR WIKI: Memento mori is an artistic or symbolic trope acting as a reminder of the inevitability of death. The concept has its roots in the philosophers of classical antiquity and Christianity, and appeared in funerary art and architecture from the medieval period onwards.

Many bands have used it for a song title as well, including Kamelot & Lamb Of God. I'm sure some are truer to the concept than others.
 
Confession Time: I was never a fan of the Gorn in "Arena". I thought he looked, acted, and sounded ridiculous. The scene when Kirk is fighting the Gorn is what's shown whenever someone in a movie is watching Star Trek. The first time I saw this instance was in Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey, then I saw it happen a few years later in Coneheads, and I've seen it in a few other spots that aren't coming to mind. But Kirk fighting the Gorn comes across to me as what someone who has no idea about Star Trek is about thinks it is.

The story of the episode itself is fine, but the Gorn did it no favors. So I'm hoping "Memento Mori" was makes them seem less silly rather than celebrating how silly they were.
 
Confession Time: I was never a fan of the Gorn in "Arena". I thought he looked, acted, and sounded ridiculous. The scene when Kirk is fighting the Gorn is what's shown whenever someone in a movie is watching Star Trek. The first time I saw this instance was in Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey, then I saw it happen a few years later in Coneheads, and I've seen it in a few other spots that aren't coming to mind. But Kirk fighting the Gorn comes across to me as what someone who has no idea about Star Trek is about thinks it is.

The story of the episode itself is fine, but the Gorn did it no favors. So I'm hoping "Memento Mori" was makes them seem less silly rather than celebrating how silly they were.

It wasn't a fair fight. Clearly the Metrons were on Kirk's side because the "Arena" had a bias toward Earth projectile weapons. And it had an Earth normal gravity pull. The Gorn Captain's muscles weren't adapted to this, judging by his clumsy movements.
 
limited budgets made for cheap special effects in those days. Plus state of the art special effects then are laughable now. Doesn't bother me that the old Gorn looked like a cheap halloween costume. It's not really all that different from the Creature From the Black Lagoon, just a guy in a rubber suit.
 
It wasn't a fair fight. Clearly the Metrons were on Kirk's side because the "Arena" had a bias toward Earth projectile weapons. And it had an Earth normal gravity pull. The Gorn Captain's muscles weren't adapted to this.
Not what I was talking about, like AT ALL, but okay.
 
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