Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x04 - "Memento Mori"

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"While on a routine supply mission to a colony planet, the U.S.S. Enterprise comes under an attack from an unknown malevolent force. Pike brings all his heart and experience to bear in facing the crisis, but the security officer warns him that the enemy cannot be dealt with by conventional Starfleet means." - TrekMovie.com

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I can't wait to see what they come up with and I can't wait to laugh at all of the complaints about canon violations.

 

Or Cannon violations.

 

This is Gorn-na be sooo Gorn-dacious.
(might as well start it off right)

 

"When I was eight years old, I witnessed the inspiring sight of seeing Captain Kirk fight and defeat a Gorn, but refuse to kill it. And now as a grown adult, I have experienced the soul crushing incident of Alex Fucking Kurtzman using those same Gorn to rape my childhood."

 

Kirk is pansexual....anything and everything is on the table.

 

What do you mean by that? I don't know about the Gorn's canon.

 

You must be missing out on all the complaints centered around the fan assumption that "The Arena" represents first contact with the Gorn and therefore any appearance by them in SNW is a canon violation.

 

Wasn't it?
I thought it was.

Btw I just recently rewatched "The menagerie" again - and it's super obvious Kirk & Pike never met - at one point, Kirk stops the recording and asks wheelchair Pike if the guy on screen really is him.

So yeah... I love SNW. But at the same time, I would definitely love it even more if it didn't try to stretch and bend canon at every chance. I like it most when it introduces new stuff, new characters, new aliens. I'm kinda' over all type of legacy characters (similar as to in Star Wars).

OTOH I never cared that much about the Gorn backstory, so bending that (and the Gorn) is a canon violation I just don't care that much about.

 

TOS contradicted TOS canon every other episode. They should never have produced anything after the pilot!

 

No, it is not.

Kirk even has a line of dialogue in which he mentions his first meeting Pike. And then, of course, he calls him "Chris" in a familiar fashion.

You've reached a mistaken conclusion.

 

The line "is that really you on the screen?" was about not believing there was footage of what was happening on the bridge 13 years earlier. Followed immediately by "Mr. Spock, no vessel makes record tapes in that detail...that perfect"

Earlier in the episode Kirk said he met Pike when Pike was "promoted to Fleet Captain". Kirk also said "I took over the Enterprise from him..." This indicates at least one meeting with Pike if those two things happened at the same time, if not two separate meetings.

 

Which is the game, isn't it? Some bits matter to some, while others don't matter at all.

SNW is taking the approach of offending everyone so we all have something to complain about. But, what I am seeing more of is fan inference from dialog, i.e. Pike/Kirk meeting once, Spock and T'Pring only seeing each other in childhood, Gorn first contact, etc. Which is why most of it I don't care about, largely because I am running against fan assumption over the past 50+ years of shows, books, fiction, etc.

 

I watched Arena again after I read that the Gorn are gonna be mentioned or even appear in SNW, and you could say they vaguely knew about them, just not in detail, and not everyone was briefed about them

 

Ah yes the Lizard Men, if this was made in the 1950’s.

 

The Gorn Certianlly knew enough about the federation to perfectly recreate the commodore to lead Kirk to Cestus 3.

 

Yeah I haven't seen that ep in a long time but I distinctly recall Kirk mentioning he met Pike once. I believe it was briefly So Kirk meeting Pike won't break canon.

 

He met Pike when he was promoted to fleet captain.