Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x03 – “Vitus Reflux”

[Elaise]

I think that is thinking the only thing affected was space travel when I think it triggered a Fallout-esque universe as a whole.

The galaxy went from Star Trek: TNG to Borderlands.

Which is to say everyone might be using analog technology and the replicators aren't nearly as good as they used to be.

The question is why. Its something I wish they would explain, because I still have yet to see a good explanation for it. My current theory is that all the smart people had their brain hooked up to subspace during the burn and got fried in the process.

 

[fireproof78]

Things blew up and people died by the millions. Fear is powerful.

Plus that weird yellow ring someone found.

 

[firehawk12]

The question is why. Its something I wish they would explain, because I still have yet to see a good explanation for it. My current theory is that all the smart people had their brain hooked up to subspace during the burn and got fried in the process.

The same reason Picard didn't refer to his problems with his mother as Mommy issues in Picard season 2, but somehow language evolved backwards. lol

 

[Detached Nacelle]

The same reason Picard didn't refer to his problems with his mother as Mommy issues in Picard season 2, but somehow language evolved backwards. lol

I would assume that has more to do with him being 80 years older than them and with a more stern even uptight personality. Language usage is just as individual as it is societal.

 

[NCC-73515]

I think I only saw the first two episodes. Where is the latest one that you like?

It's a completely new season, apparently
Better than all the previous ones combined!
No more asteroid blasting, they're now saving cute animals

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[eschaton]

Again dudes, I've always taken it as a given that things are being translated from "futurese" to something contemporary for our understanding. It goes without saying that there would be new idioms in the future, for example, but just including them into a show without context would confuse the hell out of general audiences. Unless you do a show like Darmok where it's the entire point.

To give an example from my own writing, sometimes I decide in my fantasy stories that one (fictitious) nationality will have Britishisms, while another will speak like Americans. It's not literally true within the setting that they have these accents, but the different word choices helps to get across the differences between the characters.

The show has decided to do much broader "translation" than Trek has in the past, relating what the characters say in an extremely contemporary fashion. But I take it as a given they're not literally speaking like this.

 

[Charles Phipps]

The question is why. Its something I wish they would explain, because I still have yet to see a good explanation for it. My current theory is that all the smart people had their brain hooked up to subspace during the burn and got fried in the process.

That's because I believe that every single Star Trek fan has their own headcanon as to how technology and culture work in the Star Trek universe. We don't comment on it but a lot of our buy in is because we fill in the mental blanks. For a lot of fans, the Burn doesn't make sense because in their canon, the Federation would just rebuild whatever is destroyed no matter how bad it is. Whereas the showrunners went with, "and they couldn't rebuild and everything collapsed like Rome."

Because we haven't ever had an intergalactic disaster followed by a widespread social collapse, we can't really say whether that would work or not.

The buy in just demands we say, "the technology failed even with replicators" the same way we have to ask why with replicators the Enterprise keeps having to transport food and medicine like a cargo ship.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Again dudes, I've always taken it as a given that things are being translated from "futurese" to something contemporary for our understanding. It goes without saying that there would be new idioms in the future, for example, but just including them into a show without context would confuse the hell out of general audiences. Unless you do a show like Darmok where it's the entire point.

To give an example from my own writing, sometimes I decide in my fantasy stories that one (fictitious) nationality will have Britishisms, while another will speak like Americans. It's not literally true within the setting that they have these accents, but the different word choices helps to get across the differences between the characters.

The show has decided to do much broader "translation" than Trek has in the past, relating what the characters say in an extremely contemporary fashion. But I take it as a given they're not literally speaking like this.

It may be translated but that doesn't mean the writers couldn't have made an effort to not make it need to be so translated.

 

[Destructor]

I'm sorry to say this ep was a bit of a clunker for me- 5/10 (not without merit, but with significant bad parts). I still like Hunter as Ake but found the character herself this week to be childish and irritating. Is there an actual adult in this environment for the kids to look up to?

Escalating pranks with Harry Potter plant conclusions left me feeling pretty baffled. If this has been e2 I'd have been very worried about what kind of show it was trying to be. I'm still on the STA bandwagon for now, but I hope next week is better than this one.

 

[Tuskin38]

This might be the first week where Scouts is better than the full length live action main show

lol no

 

[Mudd]

I'm glad to see them properly "translate" whatever gibberish people might be talking in a thousand years into the way their audience talks now.

The only answer to "why is it so American" that's necessary is "Because it's an Anerican TV made for an American audience."

In Canada.

 

[Tuskin38]

The same reason Picard didn't refer to his problems with his mother as Mommy issues in Picard season 2, but somehow language evolved backwards. lol

The term ‘parental issues’ was used later in the episode by an adult.

Please take in the context of which characters said what.

 

[Fateor]

That's because I believe that every single Star Trek fan has their own headcanon as to how technology and culture work in the Star Trek universe. We don't comment on it but a lot of our buy in is because we fill in the mental blanks. For a lot of fans, the Burn doesn't make sense because in their canon, the Federation would just rebuild whatever is destroyed no matter how bad it is. Whereas the showrunners went with, "and they couldn't rebuild and everything collapsed like Rome."

Because we haven't ever had an intergalactic disaster followed by a widespread social collapse, we can't really say whether that would work or not.

The problem with that idea is that Star Trek has gone in depth into the capabilities of Federation Technology to recover from disasters.

Hell, Academy has shown us they rebuilt the entirety of Earth's orbital infrastructure in two years.

The buy in just demands we say, "the technology failed even with replicators" the same way we have to ask why with replicators the Enterprise keeps having to transport food and medicine like a cargo ship.

The Enterprise didn't have replicators.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Enterprise didn't have replicators.

Food slots are a type of replicator

 

[firehawk12]

The term ‘parental issues’ was used later in the episode by an adult.

Please take in the context of which characters said what.

I mean he's a peer/kid as well, but referring to them as "issues" at all is still weird. But even a thousand years from now, it seems people will do everything they can to avoid going to therapy.

I would assume that has more to do with him being 80 years older than them and with a more stern even uptight personality. Language usage is just as individual as it is societal.

I suppose that means Jack Crusher will tell Picard that he's the reason for his daddy issues since he's the right age.

Honestly I just wish someone had made Patrick Stewart say it because it would have been funny. lol

 

[Charles Phipps]

The Enterprise didn't have replicators.

Some of them did.

 

[cooleddie74]

The NX-01, NCC-1701 and Enterprise-A had protein resequencers or food synthesizers. We don't know about the 1701-B, but it seems all of them starting with the 1701-C have replicators.

 

[Charles Phipps]

The problem with that idea is that Star Trek has gone in depth into the capabilities of Federation Technology to recover from disasters.

Hell, Academy has shown us they rebuilt the entirety of Earth's orbital infrastructure in two years.

So what would you suggest is needed to establish the galaxy reverting to mostly Nimbus 3?

 

[Turtletrekker]

The NX-01, NCC-1701 and Enterprise-A had protein resequencers or food synthesizers. We don't know about the 1701-B, but it seems all of them starting with the 1701-C have replicators.

In practical terms, what was the difference? Replicators and synthesizers both created food and clothing on command.

 

[cooleddie74]

In the story, none. But hell, they're all supposed to be different technologies so I roll with it.