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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x01 – “Kids These Days”

Give it up for Robert Picardo folks!

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I'm pretty sure Shatner wore a girdle on an occasion or two as well.
They made that green uniform just because they thought he was getting too fat.

Not that being gym fit is really a necessity for most starfleet work. Sciences, helm, engineering these tasks are hardly going to be impacted whether you're fat, skinny or muscular.
 
They made that green uniform just because they thought he was getting too fat.

Not that being gym fit is really a necessity for most starfleet work. Sciences, helm, engineering these tasks are hardly going to be impacted whether you're fat, skinny or muscular.
Engineering is a profession that often requires squeezing into tight spaces.

So it absolutely can be impacted by body size.
 
Engineering is a profession that often requires squeezing into tight spaces.

So it absolutely can be impacted by body size.
The simpsons made a fat joke about scotty back in the day
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Oh give it a rest already
Give what a rest, replying to post?


Then I feel bad for the standards you hold other human beings too in your daily life.

That or you are watching the show while your telly is pointed at a funhouse mirror.
You made a comment about O'Brien, I looked at some videos of him on youtube and disagreed with what you posted. You are the one who brought this up about him in the thread.

I'm not sure what got twisted up in that head of yours over that.
 
Do we definitely know Athena left Bajor for Earth? Or did Ake travel from Bajor to pick up Caleb and then travel to the Athena, after all Ake's belongings are brought from Bajor to the Athena, not "the surface".

Ake travels from Bajor to the Torothan prison, and then to the Athena, but i didnt catch any reference to them departing from Bajor?
The Athena's dedication plaque states that it was built at the Trappist Shipyards. So I think this is the location the Athena departed from. It would also make sense given the amount of ship activity, drydocks and space stations in orbit. Trappist is also a real star and located 41 light years away
 
I do remember people making jokes about Scotty and Kirk gaining weight, yes. But personally I don’t recall anyone ever saying they were “body positive” characters, as in characters that are meant to fulfill some agenda for more representation of people with non-slim bodies. Same for all other male Trek characters that weren’t played by traditionally slim or buff actors, like for example John Billingsley, Colm Meaney or Ethan Phillips. For some reason this angle only started to appear when it was female characters that weren’t as skinny in their tight catsuits as came to be expected from Trek. Which leads me to believe it’s just the same old story, where women are held to a different standard than men.

To me arguments like “there wouldn’t be obesity in the future” or “Starfleet wouldn’t accept overweight people” most of the time read like flimsy excuses for just wanting skinny and conventionally attractive women on television. Everything outside of this norm must be misrepresented as a “woke agenda”.

Do we definitely know Athena left Bajor for Earth? Or did Ake travel from Bajor to pick up Caleb and then travel to the Athena, after all Ake's belongings are brought from Bajor to the Athena, not "the surface".

Ake travels from Bajor to the Torothan prison, and then to the Athena, but i didnt catch any reference to them departing from Bajor?
Yeah, there’s actually nothing in the episode that would imply they are traveling from Bajor to Earth. Vance is just visiting Ake on Bajor, who then goes to the Torothan prison to pick up Caleb. They then journey via shuttle to where the Athena is, which they don’t say is Bajor and which doesn’t look like the establishing shot of Bajor we saw earlier. IIRC, there’s also nothing to indicate how long their journey to Earth takes and at which point during their journey they are traveling past the Badlands.
 
Yeah, there’s actually nothing in the episode that would imply they are traveling from Bajor to Earth. Vance is just visiting Ake on Bajor, who then goes to the Torothan prison to pick up Caleb. They then journey via shuttle to where the Athena is, which they don’t say is Bajor and which doesn’t look like the establishing shot of Bajor we saw earlier. IIRC, there’s also nothing to indicate how long their journey to Earth takes and at which point during their journey they are traveling past the Badlands.

The inconsistencies lie in the fact that they had to pass by the Badlands to reach Earth and they say right before they depart that it will take them 15 hours to reach Sol.

If the ship departs from Trappist, then that's about 20 ly closer to Earth than Bajor, meaning they'd have to fly away from Earth to reach the Badlands.

I think this can probably just be chocked up to inconsistent writing and a disconnect between the writing team and the VFX team. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
I’m confused. Neither Bajor nor the Badlands are real places in the Galaxy. How can their position relative to Earth and Trappist be wrong? Some unofficial star charts or a background graphic they once showed?
 
I’m confused. Neither Bajor nor the Badlands are real places in the Galaxy. How can their position relative to Earth and Trappist be wrong? Some unofficial star charts or a background graphic they once showed?

I was basing it off the Star Trek Star Charts and the galaxy map from Star Trek Online (which are relatively similar where Bajor is concerned with regards to location relative to Sol).

And do we know the Trappist Shipyards relate to the Trappist System?

Considering Trappist is a real star system, what else would it relate to? Or is this just an attempt at being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian instead of applying logic? Trappist 1E (the location of the shipyards per the Athena's dedication plaque) is believed to be a habitable Earth-like planet in the Trappist-1 system according to NASA. But, since the Athena's dedication plaque doesn't even have the correct registry number for the ship, then all of this information could be wildly incorrect in universe and it's all a wash anyway lol
 
Engineering is a profession that often requires squeezing into tight spaces.

So it absolutely can be impacted by body size.
Jeffries tubes aren't that small though or else someone too muscular would also be an issue and you don't see anyone complaining about that.
 
Considering Trappist is a real star system, what else would it relate to? Or is this just an attempt at being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian instead of applying logic? Trappist 1E (the location of the shipyards per the Athena's dedication plaque) is believed to be a habitable Earth-like planet in the Trappist-1 system according to NASA. But, since the Athena's dedication plaque doesn't even have the correct registry number for the ship, then all of this information could be wildly incorrect in universe and it's all a wash anyway lol

Merely an observation given that other real star systems IRL dont necessarily correspond to their in-Trek locations, and one of the explanations that has been given is there are multiple systems with the same or very similar name - I think it was Rigel.
 
For some reason this angle only started to appear when it was female characters
It mostly that it became a thing because weak minded people who are easily led were told its a thing to get upset about. Most of these right wing culture warriors didn't even notice this stuff till they were told to.
 
Merely an observation given that other real star systems IRL dont necessarily correspond to their in-Trek locations, and one of the explanations that has been given is there are multiple systems with the same or very similar name - I think it was Rigel.
When Rick Berman and Brannon Braga wrote Broken Bow, they were unaware that Rigel was a real star system.
 
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