Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

[Tuskin38]

I was reading Memory-Alpha, as one sometimes does, and came across this

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Vvalti

The Romulan that Sneed had the head of was arrested once in Vvalti on Romulus. Vvalti has never appeared nor has it been mentioned before in Star Trek, it comes from Chabon's backstory notes for Picard Season 1, it was the capital of the Romulan Free State.

So one of the writers or at the very least one of the artists on Picard Season 3 read Chabon's notes from Season 1. Though apparently not closely enough as Vvalti was a planet not a settlement on Romulus.

https://michaelchabon.medium.com/two-final-notes-on-romulans-8d05e27ee9fa

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Howcome it took for Picard for us to hear about these other groups the Zhat Vash, Qowat Milat and all that other stuff? Was any of this in the novels because TNG never really did much with the Romulans

 

[Nerys Myk]

Howcome it took for Picard for us to hear about these other groups the Zhat Vash, Qowat Milat and all that other stuff? Was any of this in the novels because TNG never really did much with the Romulans

It's fiction. We get new stuff all of the time. Sometimes the new stuff is something that's been part of the fictional reality since the "start", even if we (the audience) never heard of it before.
IIRC, they're all original to Picard and not from any books.

 

[Tuskin38]

Sometimes the new stuff is something that's been part of the fictional reality since the "start", even if we (the audience) never heard of it before.

Yeah, look at the Federation-Cardassian War(s) in TNG. It had apparently been going on for a decades, but we only learn about it in Season 4

 

[cooleddie74]

Same with the Tzenkethi War circa 2360 to the early 2360s. Never referenced until first "The Adversary" and later "Homefront" and "Paradise Lost" in DS9 and spoken of as a significant military conflict between the Federation and the Tzenkethi that put both Benjamin Sisko and James Leyton in the thick of danger.

 

[F. King Daniel]

What was up with them featuring a red door so much and not having "Paint it Black" on the soundtrack?

 

[Commander Troi]

Licensing $$$.

 

[Danja]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/r-p-showtime-meet-paramount-224349091.html

Showtime's parent company Paramount Global announced Monday it will rebrand the linear channel Showtime under a new identity - Paramount Plus With Showtime, a name previously used by the company for a streaming service bundle.

The rebrand, which begins on Jan. 8, 2024, will present some Paramount Plus original series on the television channel, allowing TV subscribers to watch shows such as "Halo," "Star Trek: Discovery" and "Sexy Beast."

Showtime's new name follows Warner Bros. Discovery's decision in April to rename the HBO Max app as simply "Max," a move made to eliminate the HBO brand's reputational link to mature content, according to the company. The app has since integrated TNT sports broadcasts and live CNN programs, making it a one-stop shop for WBD's products.

Showtime's parent company Paramount Global announced Monday it will rebrand the linear channel Showtime under a new identity - Paramount Plus With Showtime.

Trek is now going out to more people.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Seemed inevitable. The name "Showtime" didn't even have the pop culture cache that "HBO" did, so it makes sense they would rebrand it with a name that's more familiar and reflective of the company.

 

[Happy Hopping]

In episode 3 or so, just before they travel back to Los Angeles, Rio's ship is being pursue by 3 starships. He fired 1 torpedo at 1 of them, that ship exploded. How can a starship be so easily destroyed? Likewise, the Borg Queen fired 2 more at 2 other ships, 1 shot, ea. ship exploded. If these starship can blow up via 1 shot, they won't be starship

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

In episode 3 or so, just before they travel back to Los Angeles, Rio's ship is being pursue by 3 starships. He fired 1 torpedo at 1 of them, that ship exploded. How can a starship be so easily destroyed? Likewise, the Borg Queen fired 2 more at 2 other ships, 1 shot, ea. ship exploded. If these starship can blow up via 1 shot, they won't be starship

Maybe they're made of paper mache

 

[cooleddie74]

Damn Starfleet budget cuts.

 

[Tuskin38]

In episode 3 or so, just before they travel back to Los Angeles, Rio's ship is being pursue by 3 starships. He fired 1 torpedo at 1 of them, that ship exploded. How can a starship be so easily destroyed? Likewise, the Borg Queen fired 2 more at 2 other ships, 1 shot, ea. ship exploded. If these starship can blow up via 1 shot, they won't be starship

Same thing happened in DS9 in those fleet battles.
It just looks cooler

 

[NCC-73515]

In episode 3 or so, just before they travel back to Los Angeles, Rio's ship is being pursue by 3 starships. He fired 1 torpedo at 1 of them, that ship exploded. How can a starship be so easily destroyed? Likewise, the Borg Queen fired 2 more at 2 other ships, 1 shot, ea. ship exploded. If these starship can blow up via 1 shot, they won't be starship

I think they even said out loud that the Queen augmented the weapons as she took control

 

[Happy Hopping]

but that's the last 2 green torpedo. The first 1 is red, and that's fired by Rio

 

[NCC-73515]

Now you made me rewatch it
They target the forward ship's starboard nacelle, then instead hit the middle ship's deflector, we don't see if it's completely destroyed, then the Borg weapons hit the 2 remaining ships.
The first ship hit by a regular torpedo was a Nova, which may not be a simple research ship in that universe, but it probably is not a very strong ship.

 

[fireproof78]

Same thing happened in DS9 in those fleet battles.
It just looks cooler

Yup. Also, ships without shields tend to die quickly.

 

[donners22]

As with most things in Trek, ship power and durability is whatever serves the purpose of drama in a given scene.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

As with most things in Trek, ship power and durability is whatever serves the purpose of drama in a given scene.

Plot armor is a magical thing

 

[cooleddie74]

And the best thing is that plot armor remains the same no matter how advanced or relatively primitive the technology depicted.