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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

They were certainly better made
No, they were also more popular. I rarely saw anyone except Star Trek fans or Star Trek sites talk about Season 3 on Social media.
Meanwhile I saw a wide verity of people talking about the other series nominated.

I listen to a few non-star trek media podcasts, and I've heard those shows brought up, but never Picard Season 3. Picard sometimes, but usually something to effect they gave up on it after the first season.
 
No, they were also more popular. I rarely saw anyone except Star Trek fans or Star Trek sites talk about Season 3 on Social media.
Meanwhile I saw a wide verity of people talking about the other series nominated.

I listen to a few non-star trek media podcasts, and I've heard those shows brought up, but never Picard Season 3. Picard sometimes, but usually something to effect they gave up on it after the first season.
Popularity was clearly the wrong word. Regardless, the awards were clearly biased towards Picard. It was certainly not any kind of measurement of quality, as other shows were vastly superior on most fronts.
 
Though Andor was ultimately a damn good show, it was a bit of an acquired taste. The first three episode arc about Andor fighting the corporate security goons honestly bored me. It wasn't until the fourth episode onwards when they began with the ISB storyline and Mon Mothma's material that the show really got going.

I didn't really like most of Andor, though the prison episode was definitely worth the hype at the very least.

Regardless, it was 100 times better written, shot and acted than Picard season 3.
 
Most awards are when it comes to entertainment.
Are they?

Forgetting that I'm now thinking that popularity was the wrong choice of words in regards to Picard..... If popularity was the number one factor in handing out awards, wouldn't ever Oscar's, at least a few years ago, be dominated by Marvel movies?
 
Are they?

Forgetting that I'm now thinking that popularity was the wrong choice of words in regards to Picard..... If popularity was the number one factor in handing out awards, wouldn't ever Oscar's, at least a few years ago, be dominated by Marvel movies?
Not popularity based upon what audiences love, but popularity in what Hollywood loves. So, it's reflective of that subculture within.

Which is why I find it something that is less interesting and more just hollow fanfare, amounting to nothing.
 
The fact they gave Picard season 3 the award for best Sci-fi series over Andor, nevermind that they gave Stewart the award over Diego Luna or Pedro Pascal in TLOU, tells me everything I need to know about these awards.

It's like "Return of the King" at the Oscars. That is to say, Picard was ending, and Andor still has another year. So they can give Andor its award after season 2, but they will not have another chance for Picard.
 
Yeah, Picard coming and going without any awards would hardly have been a snub.

Plus RotK wasn't even nominated entirely on its own merits - it was also a stand-in for the trilogy as a whole which a lot of people thought had already been snubbed before RotK even came out.

Show of hands who really believes that the people who're seriously claiming Pic. S3 was the best show of the year would totally agree that Seasons 1 or 2 should also have won the award?
 
The fact they gave Picard season 3 the award for best Sci-fi series over Andor, nevermind that they gave Stewart the award over Diego Luna or Pedro Pascal in TLOU, tells me everything I need to know about these awards.

Both shows were spectacular.

I think it's incredibly difficult to throw down a firm "one was better than the other". They were different shows entirely. Both of them were absolutely amazing. I liked PIC more, if only because I felt Andor took a bit to actually get going anywhere.

Both SNW Season 2 and DSC Season 4 were better and more intelligently written shows for sure.

I can't get on board with that, at all.

SNW S4 was fun... but it relied heavy on gimmick episodes and had alot of just plain silliness. I can't think "intelligent writing" and "people are singing? The universe must work on musical rules now! Obvi!"...

DSC S4 was the best thing that Discovery has done, although the unrelenting and insidious focus on Burnham dragged the show down and it botched the landing once again, although not quite as bad as seasons past, by giving into the meme and having the situation resolved by Burnham literally crying at it.
 
Emotions...oh no.

Both SNW Season 2 and DSC Season 4 were better and more intelligently written shows for sure.
I would be inclined towards this, at least if I were to put Picard against the two. I think SNW Season 2 was a much more mixed bag, but when it landed it (Among the Lotus Eaters, Broken Circle) it landed it well. Discovery was also very enjoyable and introduced some very interesting characters, and built upon Burnham more. But, I will of course be transparent and say that there are few TNG characters who hook me like Pike or Burnham either.
 
I think it's incredibly difficult to throw down a firm "one was better than the other".
Not really. I'll do it right now. Andor was a better show than Picard in every conceivable way.

SNW S4 was fun... but it relied heavy on gimmick episodes

As opposed to Picard, which felt entirely like a gimmick.

plain silliness.

Silliness in Star Trek? Heaven forbid!
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Both SNW Season 2 and DSC Season 4 were better and more intelligently written shows for sure.
SNW had 3 good episodes, PIC had 10.
Disco was too dragged out, very slow and boring, and had highlights like filters that only filter known stuff and let in unknown stuff :D
 
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