Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

[Anduinel]

It’ll get makeup or special effects or costumes.

I don't think there was anything standout about makeup or costuming this season (even if Dorn as Worf was looking damn good). Betting on special effects, if anything. It's not every day you see a pissed off starship. XD

That's nice to see the bill board supporting Star Trek Picard for awards. Scifi fanatics is interviewing Evan Evagora and talking about Terry Matalas telling him Elnor's character wouldn't be in season 3 and Michelle and Isa Briones telling each other about the news.Terry told them they all did a good job in the first 2 seasons.

The Exiles pitch was the part that had most of my interest. I doubt Evagora would have been speaking so freely if there was any chance of it actually getting picked up, but LDS and PRO are two of current Trek's strongest offerings, so I'd been hoping P+ would consider another animated program.

 

[James Cole]

Looks like season 3 will be released on Blu-ray on September 5, according to Amazon. There's a reference to a "special edition" and a "standard edition"... so this could be a steelbook, or one with expanded extras?

 

[The Wormhole]

It's probably a reference to steel book.

 

[Reanok]

Speaking of books next year we'll be getting a new Picard novel with Seven of 9 Firewall by David Mack that will fill in the banks after the Voyager finale and what happened with Kathrine Janeway and up with Seven ending up Joining the Fenris Rangers. The book will be coming out February 27.2024. This great news about a new Picard coming out.

 

[fireproof78]

It's probably a reference to steel book.

*fair warning: this joke makes much more sense if you imagine it as spoke out loud, and are familiar with Caboose from Red vs Blue.*

"Steele...book? Books are not made out of steele. They are made from paper. That is why trees are redwoods."

I'll show myself out.

 

[Snowdrop82]

I have seen various parts of Picard recently. I cannot say I am impressed with it, personally. I do like the idea of the Enterprise D being rebuilt, however.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I have seen various parts of Picard recently. I cannot say I am impressed with it, personally. I do like the idea of the Enterprise D being rebuilt, however.

Can I ask what turned you off?

 

[Snowdrop82]

Can I ask what turned you off?

Mainly it is the visual style of the show itself as well as the Plotline as a whole that didn't make sense to me. If I were to have a continuation of Star Trek, it would be something set a few decades after the Dominion War in which the Romulan supernova never happened. Perhaps it would even involve a Captain Data of the USS Enterprise F or G.

 

[Lord Garth]

Mainly it is the visual style of the show itself as well as the Plotline as a whole that didn't make sense to me. If I were to have a continuation of Star Trek, it would be something set a few decades after the Dominion War in which the Romulan supernova never happened. Perhaps it would even involve a Captain Data of the USS Enterprise F or G.

I'm neither a fan of the TNG Films (except FC) nor a fan of the Kelvin Films, but I have huge respect for PIC taking what happened in them and making lemonade from lemons. Ignoring all the shit that happened in-between would've been too easy, whereas instead they decided to grab the bull by the horns.

Plus, I'm not going to lie, when I saw the 2009 Film, I was interested in knowing what happened on the Prime Timeline side of things before, during, and after 2387. After Star Trek began streaming on Netflix, I knew it would be a matter of when Star Trek would return to TV, not if, and I thought they'd deal with this. Turns out I was right, except I was one series off. It wasn't the next series (DSC), it was the one after that (PIC).

Also, when I was a kid, I kept thinking that we'd see as huge of a visual jump from TNG to the TNG Movies as there was from TOS to the TOS Movies. I was disappointed when that didn't happen with the actual TNG Movies, but that jump was finally there going from TNG to PIC.

So, in a lot of ways, Picard -- as a whole -- delivered things I wanted to see for a long time. Including PIC Season 3, since it's really basically a TOS Movie starring the TNG Cast. And another "TOS Movie" was something else I always wanted to see. I was one of those people leaving the theater in 1991 thinking, "Why does this have to be the last one?!"

 

[Tuskin38]

in which the Romulan supernova never happened.

But that would contradict canon.

Mainly it is the visual style of the show itself

What was wrong with it? It was evolution of what we last saw in the TNG movies.

 

[fireproof78]

after the Dominion War in which the Romulan supernova never happened.

Why? That's an extremely impactful event ripe for dramatic potential.

 

[Snowdrop82]

Why? That's an extremely impactful event ripe for dramatic potential.

I suppose that is one of my unpopular opinions. I was never ever fond of it and I found it to be something that I just never liked. It made the Romulans into refugees, instead of a powerful interstellar power.

 

[fireproof78]

I suppose that is one of my unpopular opinions. I was never ever fond of it and I found it to be something that I just never liked. It made the Romulans into refugees, instead of a powerful interstellar power.

Which is what happens with many powers across Earth in it's history for a variety of reasons. I don't feel the Romulans, as much as I love them, are somehow exempted from that possibility.

And it's not that I like it or don't like it, but that it offers up a huge amount of dramatic potential for Star Trek to unpack, which is always my preference.

 

[Lord Garth]

I suppose that is one of my unpopular opinions. I was never ever fond of it and I found it to be something that I just never liked. It made the Romulans into refugees, instead of a powerful interstellar power.

The Romulan Free State looks as if it's a major power in the Alpha Quadrant. Or at least Oh likes to think so. It's best to think of the Romulan Free State as Russia to the Romulan Empire's Soviet Union. And no doubt Oh, like a certain someone else IRL, wants to build the old empire back up in all but name.

 

[Snowdrop82]

The Romulan Free State looks as if it's a major power in the Alpha Quadrant. Or at least Oh likes to think so. It's best to think of the Romulan Free State as Russia to the Romulan Empire's Soviet Union. And no doubt Oh, like a certain someone else IRL, wants to build the old empire back up in all but name.

What is the status of the Klingons?

 

[Lord Garth]

What is the status of the Klingons?

No. That was the status of the Klingons after TUC.

The Klingons from TNG onwards, minus one hiccup in the middle of DS9, are allies of the Federation. After Martok assumes power, they're deeper allies than ever before. I don't know what to pin that down as, but it's not Russia. The Klingon/Russian analogy only works in TOS and the TOS Movies.

In TOS, the Klingons are the Soviets and the Romulans are the Chinese. In TNG, with the Klingons as allies, they made the Romulans the entire face of their Cold War analogy, which they kept going even after the Cold War ended.

 

[Snowdrop82]

No. That was the status of the Klingons after TUC.

The Klingons from TNG onwards, minus one hiccup in the middle of DS9, are allies of the Federation. After Martok assumes power, they're deeper allies than ever before. I don't know what to pin that down as, but it's not Russia. The Klingon/Russian analogy only works in TOS and the TOS Movies.

In TOS, the Klingons are the Soviets and the Romulans are the Chinese. In TNG, with the Klingons as allies, they made the Romulans the entire face of their Cold War analogy, which they kept going even after the Cold War ended.

I suppose my question was more of specifically referencing the Klingons in Picard.

 

[Lord Garth]

I suppose my question was more of specifically referencing the Klingons in Picard.

They're probably one of America's European Allies. I'm not European, so I'll let a poster who is say who they think the Klingons are. This sounds like one of the things Terry Matalas wants to cover in Legacy, since they never got to it in Picard.

Some people here (not you) are going to say, "We don't need an update on everyone!" I see what they're saying, and I understand it, but I have to tell them, "Tough shit. No one's forcing you to watch." Given enough episodes, and if it fits the stories they're telling, we'll eventually get updates on all the Major Powers. Not all the minor and obscure powers, but definitely the major ones.

 

[Danja]

https://screenrant.com/beverly-crusher-best-star-trek-legacy-doctor/

Leave the woman alone!

She has her place as head of SF Medical. Let Dr. Ohk continue to serve on the Enterprise.

Jack Crusher landed a position as a Special Counselor to Captain Seven of Nine (Jeri Ryan). Though it's unclear exactly what this entails, he will likely end up in dangerous situations, and Beverly will want to be there to ensure his safety.

Jack has to grow up SOMETIME.

 

[Wingcommanderdarkwolf01]

Dr. Ohk FTW.