Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Tuskin38, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. Tuskin38

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  3. Reanok

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    I listened to the Trek.fm pod podcast it would be interesting to see Robert Ducan Mcneill return as Tom Paris even if it was a brief scene for Picard season 2.
     
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    The Mirror Universe works as a kind of institution in Star Trek. It was fun in TOS. Its return in DS9 was was pointless, but well done. Its use in Enterprise was brilliant if harkening back to TOS cartoonishness (and tying the Defiant into it was inspired). Its use in Discovery was visually interesting but overall pointless.Granted every episode is just a porthole into how that universe works, but the rate of murder and treason going on, it's amazing anything got done.

    There is many real world examples in history and in the present of the banality of evil. DS9 almost went down this road with the Dominion, whose original concept was basically the Dark Federation.

    I think a true Dark Federation would be fascinating to see. Extremely competent, practical and even pragmatic, but also morally inverted from the UFP we know. A good starting example would be the American Reich in The Man in the High Castle show. When you watch that show, it's filled with "thank God we live in a universe where the allies destroyed the Nazis" moments. But the entire 1960s American Reich and Greater German Reich are believably competent and believably work. It's a horrible to see " Functional Evil" that makes the world that is not it so much richer, even in the midst of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    A Dark Federation could be that too. Perhaps it wouldn't engage in practices like genocide or slavery akin to the the Terran Empire. But consider a universe where everyone over the age of 18 is required to record a daily log of their activities (a riff on a Captains log). And that that log is harvested in some kind of late 24th century big data operation (seriously, imagine what that would be) to root out subversives. Part of my own headcanon about Star Trek is that already crew logs in Starfleet are exactly that: officers are required to file them, and then Starfleet algorithmically analyzes them to keep tabs on ongoing missions and crew performance.

    So out with the agonizer booths and in with the Federation that says "maybe we'll have elections, next year, if it's safe. And by the way, do YOU know what your neighbors have been up to?"
     
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    YES PLEASE! I would love to see this!
     
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    Enough with the dark/mirror universes already.
    It wouldn’t be so bad if the concept was treated seriously but anytime the mirror universe shows up(except in Enterprise)it’s an excuse for bad acting,costuming and lousy scripting.
     
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    Mirror Universe is badass. I'll take it.
     
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    Whoopi Goldberg just posted in her Instagram stories that she is filming Picard right now. It says: "Ms G. is back at the bar."
     
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    A bar curiously devoid of any bottles of Chateau Picard. "I ran out ages ago. Supply dried up. Leaf miner invasion. I guess you were too busy saving Romulans to tend to your vines. All the oenophiles I listen to wish the Romulans never existed in the first place."
     
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    And they completely forgot about Mrs. A through F. Unacceptable.
     
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  11. Tuskin38

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    Ah so she is still in this season

    Did she delete it? I see nothing.
     
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    I have to admit, while so many were taking it as a given, I was skeptical that she was actually going to be in this season just based on that informal invitation on The View.
     
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    I was skeptical too because CBS didn't list her as appearing in season two, but I thought it had to do with COVID restrictions. Both LeVar Burton and Gates McFadden have hinted that they were contacted about possible appearances but that covid safety had changed the number of guest performers they could have.
     
  15. MrPicard

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    Generally speaking, if Sir Patrick invites someone on his show the way he invited Whoopi Goldberg you can bet that it’s meant seriously. ;)
     
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    I'd rather not.
     
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    Yeah, I thought the public invitation meant it was definite, but then Covid came along and things might have changed.
     
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    Isa Briones is going to be at the Star Trek Las Vegas convention this week. I hope we'll get some news about Picard season 2
     
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    Eh I doubt we'll get anything. She might say things about how it is working with certain people. But I wouldn't expect anything outside of an official event.
     
  20. MrPicard

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    I doubt it as well - they’re currently promoting Lower Decks because the new season has started. They won’t want any “interference” from PIC there - they’ve made it somewhat clear in recent months that they always tend to focus their promotional work on the show that’s currently airing or soon-to-be airing. And I’m also pretty sure Briones, like everyone else who’s working on PIC, signed at least one NDA ;)
     
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