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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

That ship sailed a long time ago. Almost everything I watch nowadays has F-bombs. You're barking up the wrong tree.

And you're missing the point. I'm saying removing the F word takes nothing away from the series, and instead makes it more family friendly. You would be enjoying it the exact same amount.
 
And you're missing the point. I'm saying removing the F word takes nothing away from the series, and instead makes it more family friendly. You would be enjoying it the exact same amount.
I understood exactly what you're saying. I'm saying I don't care. It has nothing to do with me.

If I had kids, maybe I'd feel differently, but I don't know. So what I did was tell you what my brother is planning to do. He loves DSC and PIC but that doesn't mean he's in a rush to show his seven-year-old. I'm not a parent, but half my friends are. They want alone time. They want adult time. They want to watch stuff after the kids went to bed.
 
I understood exactly what you're saying. I'm saying I don't care. It has nothing to do with me.

Quite a selfish view. So you're not interested in discussing the wider appeal of Star Trek, fair enough.

Nothing about it shocked me, so they failed if that was the intent. I've seen worse in Star Trek.

Still don't see how it's juvenile. I thought juvenile meant 'for kids'.

Replace "for kids" with "childish"

Character development and made the dialogue feel more realistic.

The dialogue couldn't get any less realistic on Discovery. As for Picard, characters say fuck and in doing so it develops their character. Riiiight.

Pointless carrying on if you truly believe that.
 
Replace "for kids" with "childish"

I don't think any children would be coming up with the things we see in these shows.

The dialogue couldn't get any less realistic on Discovery. As for Picard, characters say fuck and in doing so it develops their character. Riiiight.

Certainly better than the sterile dialogue in the older Treks. I guess you didn't like every time they said 'shit' in the previous series/movies either?
 
"This is so fucking cool"?

Jurati and Rios snogging having just met?

Hissing tentacle AI monsters?

Thousands of idiotic drone ships flying around because kewl?

The turbolift funhouse?

Georgiou eating Kelpians and slicing her officers heads apart?

Storylines of two separate shows that start out interesting but then devolve into mindless cliched action about AI taking over the galaxy?
None of these things are juvenile, and some of them even happened in past Trek, including hook ups.

Yes, I know that past Trek doing it is no excuse. But, shall we be consistent and call past Trek juvenile as well?
 
The original series was considered very adult and risque in it's time. I'm old enough to remember when my mom didn't want me to watch Star Trek even though she was a huge fan.

Wow. I literally watched reruns of the original series after Saturday morning cartoons. From the ages of 2 or 3 up to at least 9 I'd wake up in the wee hours in my pj's, get some Pac-Man (or equally sugary) cereal, watch hours of Super Friends, Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends, Robotech, Voltron, Transformers, Go-Bots, He-Man, She-Ra, Jemm, Inhumanoids, Muppet Babies, Kidd Video, Mr T, Thundercats, MASK, Rocky & Bullwinkle, etc...., then around 1 in the afternoon, desperate to keep the entertainment going, I found TOS early on, and though not a cartoon it had space adventurers in colourful uniforms, so it hooked me. It was how I topped off my Saturday mornings for years.
 
Picard is geared towards people who grew up watching TNG. Everyone's older now. We're older, Patrick Stewart's older. If you can't handle "fuck", that's on you.

I can. I'm sure nearly all the kids who'll be prevented from watching this by their parents can. But the parents can't, and that just makes me sad.
 
I can. I'm sure nearly all the kids who'll be prevented from watching this by their parents can. But the parents can't, and that just makes me sad.
Well, like I said my brother's a parent and he can. Half my friends are parents and they can. If they're under 10. If they're over 10, that's different. They'll find a way to watch. But if they're over 10, they can handle DSC and PIC. Children aren't the delicate flowers they're painted to be. Especially when they're pre-teens.

I was a substitute teacher after I graduated from college. Upper-elementary school was still okay. But when I was dealing with junior high kids (a.k.a. middle school), they were challenging me at every turn. After one day I decided I was only going to do upper-elementary school (they don't usually give men anything below the fourth grade) or high school. Junior high? Forget it.
 
Well, like I said my brother's a parent and he can. Half my friends are parents and they can. If they're under 10. If they're over 10, that's different. They'll find a way to watch. But if they're over 10, they can handle DSC and PIC. Children aren't the delicate flowers they're painted to be. Especially when they're pre-teens.
Or parents could be engaged with their kids and watch it with them.
 
None of these things are juvenile, and some of them even happened in past Trek, including hook ups.

Yes, I know that past Trek doing it is no excuse. But, shall we be consistent and call past Trek juvenile as well?
It wouldn't be the first time. Check this out. The review in Variety for TOS has all the trappings of someone complaining about current Trek
  • Wooden acting!
  • Violence!
  • Juvenile!
  • Doesn't work!
  • Everything about it is badly done!
  • How did this get on the air????
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It wouldn't be the first time. Check this out. The review in Variety for TOS has all the trappings of someone complaining about current Trek
  • Wooden acting!
  • Violence!
  • Juvenile!
  • Doesn't work!
  • Everything about it is badly done!
  • How did this get on the air????
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Oh, wow. That's fucking hilarious...the more things change...:guffaw:
 
Just got to throw in one other thing, then I'm done. One of my favorite scenes from Star Trek IV, when I was a kid, was when the punker gave Kirk and Spock the finger.

Sorry, but saying "fuck" isn't much different from flipping the bird.

"Nobody pays any attention to you unless you swear every other word." Do you know what my parents did when they saw that, while I was watching? They didn't clutch their pearls, they were laughing. And so was I.
 
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