Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 3x01 - "Grounded"

Possibly, but I doubt it will be as extreme with Mariner as it was with Jake, i.e. becoming a parent, etc.

 

Well, she doesn't have the broken family that Jake does, so becoming a good parent wouldn't be a satisfactory resolution for her.

I think she'll be a brilliant officer by the time it's all done, but brilliant in a not-exactly-by-the-book (but still within the boundaries of said book) way.

 

I thought about that, but the VCC is likely to get more restrictive in the future, not less.

But mostly I just get a kick out of pointing out how little research the staff of DS9 did on New Orleans. (They also had a horse pulling a carriage rather than a mule.)

 

I think that's the biggest appeal to me, and Mariner is like Tom Paris in a way. Breaking the rules but honestly wants to do the right thing just not according to procedure. And while I don't think she has a broken family, she definitely doesn't have a healthy family relationship with her parents.

This is why the Mary Sue thing falls flat for me. Mariner has a huge amount of room for growth and learning from her mistakes, rather than repeatedly being a jackass for the sake of comedy.

 

I dunno, I think you could argue she already is a brilliant officer she just doesn’t do stuff within the established rules or chain of command.

 

But it is stated time and again that she's in the wrong consistently. Sometimes her schemes work out and sometimes they don't. Her friends love her but by no means think she's right when she tries to steal the ship. Ransom is in charge of her now so who knows. Also, every superhero is a goddamned Mary Sue.

 

Or maybe he just really hates being in charge of raisin grapes. I know this is a cartoon, but I would rather we not make assumptions about people who do physical labor. It's classist and untrue. There have been great poets who were migrant farm workers. The work one does is not indicative of intelligence, only of circumstance, (or rather, often a matter of circumstance beyond our control.)

 

And to be fair most of the time it comes off as minor stuff probably barely anyone would care that much about.

 

I wonder why all these women were overtly hitting on Boimler: perhaps being a Starfeet officer is considered very sexy in the 24th century?
Also unusual Mariner’s lack of reaction, but she was probably too focused on her mother’s situation to notice.

 

I was referring to Burnham with that statement.

It comes out on Friday outside of the US and Canada, just like season 2 and all the other new Trek shows.

 

Usually next day for UK

 

Screencaps gallery now online:

https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sc-LD3-1.php

Enjoy-

 

Is Beckett Mariner the one officer who has spent the longest time as an Ensign in StarFleet?

It's estimated that she's 35 y/o over here.

Given Tawny Newsome is 39 y/o, I can see plausibility in Beckett Mariner being 35 y/o, especially given how many ships she's served on already, yet hasn't really ranked up.

 

Just got Tawny’s autograph at Vegas. One down, three to go.

 

Tell us everything you hear about upcoming stuff!

 

FC theme is one of my favourite tunes from any movie. Really wasnt expecting FC references so when the song came on it was pretty emotional. Also Magic Carpet Ride is a belter of a song.

 

perhaps the second longest. Everyone here should know who holds the first place.

 

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If you think Burnham is a MarySue, then you DON'T KNOW what a MarySue is.