My prediction is Saru will die but Jones will stay on the show as one of the Preserver aliens in new makeup. Burnham steps down as Captain to become the Ambassador and Raynar becomes the new Captain of Discovery.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x02 - "Under the Twin Moons"
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My prediction is that the Discovery will take a wild trip through Progenitor space and meet with their latest creations and cousins. The ultimate star trek.
Good episode, I liked it more that the first. The jungle planet was a great setting. I predict the Disco crew will find some of the pieces, and the two antagonists will find the rest, and they'll be a big showdown on some mystical Progenitor world.
Only thing better would be if Saru did the Naruto run.
These were both fun romps, some of the action went on a little too long or was a little too talky but ehh I had a good time.
Always a fan of Kovich glad to see more of him.
Always a fan of Kovich glad to see more of him.
I doubt Saru is getting killed off since he’s as far from the action as possible thanks to his new job.
For now.
I do hope Saru won't die, because I want him to be available to show up on the Academy show
I'll elaborate on why I don't think Saru will be killed off.
1. They didn't know this would be the last season when it was being filmed. If they thought there might've been a Season 6, they would've wanted Doug Jones back. I don't think he would've wanted to leave the show prematurely.
2. Let's go with the idea of "Marriage & Happiness = Death". Okay. Fine. If they're going to choose who they're going to kill off, it's going to be the character who's not in the opening credits. Saru's actor is in the opening credits. T'Rina's isn't. If anyone's going to die in this couple, it'll be T'Rina.
3. If T'Rina had been killed off, and there was a Season 6, the writers could've thought, "Okay. Now we can see how Saru deals with this." They can even do that at the end of Season 5 if, in fact, T'Rina is killed off.
4. I think the fact that some people expect it means it's not going to happen.
5. Rayner won't last as First Officer. Something is up with him. Which will leave the First Officer spot open once again. At the end of the day, this is a TV series. TV series like the Status Quo, which means Saru would be back to his old position by the end. Ergo, he can't be killed off.
6. Finally, Riker and Troi were married in Nemesis. Neither one was killed off, and TPTB still try to have them in as many Star Trek series as possible to this day. Proof right there that marriage doesn't automatically mean death.
1. They didn't know this would be the last season when it was being filmed. If they thought there might've been a Season 6, they would've wanted Doug Jones back. I don't think he would've wanted to leave the show prematurely.
2. Let's go with the idea of "Marriage & Happiness = Death". Okay. Fine. If they're going to choose who they're going to kill off, it's going to be the character who's not in the opening credits. Saru's actor is in the opening credits. T'Rina's isn't. If anyone's going to die in this couple, it'll be T'Rina.
3. If T'Rina had been killed off, and there was a Season 6, the writers could've thought, "Okay. Now we can see how Saru deals with this." They can even do that at the end of Season 5 if, in fact, T'Rina is killed off.
4. I think the fact that some people expect it means it's not going to happen.
5. Rayner won't last as First Officer. Something is up with him. Which will leave the First Officer spot open once again. At the end of the day, this is a TV series. TV series like the Status Quo, which means Saru would be back to his old position by the end. Ergo, he can't be killed off.
6. Finally, Riker and Troi were married in Nemesis. Neither one was killed off, and TPTB still try to have them in as many Star Trek series as possible to this day. Proof right there that marriage doesn't automatically mean death.
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My first serious defense of a position I have about this season. That didn't take long. Less than 24 hours. 
If we're talking possibly doomed characters I'd go
1) Raynar
2) Kovich
3) Book
4) Everyone else
5) Grudge
1) Raynar
2) Kovich
3) Book
4) Everyone else
5) Grudge
Killing off characters as a redemptive arc is becoming a real trope. I hope they don't kill off Rayner. Just like I think Captain Shaw didn't need to die
Rayner is the bee's knees.
This was a better episode than the premiere.
Tilly and Rayner have an inverse theme going on... Tilly wanting to show her cadets how to understand the mission but they are good at tasks, while Rayner fully understands the mission but missing the mark on tasks.
I have always enjoyed Callum Keith Rennie in his various roles, and he does not disappoint here. His scene at the hearing... love it, and everything he said. (I've actually had very similar conversations with store leadership at my previous jobs. You can guess who I sounded like...) He's going to be a great XO.
Again, Doug Jones just knocking it out of the park. Him and Sonequa were fantastic in this episode. Every scene with those two was just gold.
I love the callback to TNG's "Booby Trap"... another favorite of mine.
Vance again showing his awesomeness.
While this did create a bit of 'small universe syndrome', the fact Book knows who Moll is adds an interesting wrinkle.
The character beats were even better here than in the premiere, and felt a bit more natural. I give this episode a 9.
Tilly and Rayner have an inverse theme going on... Tilly wanting to show her cadets how to understand the mission but they are good at tasks, while Rayner fully understands the mission but missing the mark on tasks.
I have always enjoyed Callum Keith Rennie in his various roles, and he does not disappoint here. His scene at the hearing... love it, and everything he said. (I've actually had very similar conversations with store leadership at my previous jobs. You can guess who I sounded like...) He's going to be a great XO.
Again, Doug Jones just knocking it out of the park. Him and Sonequa were fantastic in this episode. Every scene with those two was just gold.
I love the callback to TNG's "Booby Trap"... another favorite of mine.
Vance again showing his awesomeness.
While this did create a bit of 'small universe syndrome', the fact Book knows who Moll is adds an interesting wrinkle.
The character beats were even better here than in the premiere, and felt a bit more natural. I give this episode a 9.
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The thing with killing Saru is you know you can still keep Doug Jones and have him play another alien character. Or even a human. I think he would love the chance to be able to play a human.
He's even played a singing Moon that plays piano.
No. They both dropped on Paramount Plus at the same time
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