Wasn’t that the point of “The Chase” , to explain why so many Trek aliens look human (with bumps) and can reproduce with each other?
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Thats a big part of it, yes.
I think part of the appeal is the growth of Picard's character. The episode has one of the franchise's best guest stars and of course adventure aplenty.
Again, it's possible that whatever Progenitor stuff they find might not be related to their galactic seeding of the galaxy with humanoid life. They probably had tons of other super high tech. Could be any of that.
My hope would be that they explain why the Progenitors seeded the galaxy. It's been a long time since I've seen The Chase but I don't think that was covered. Was it just for posterity? Or something more?
My hope would be that they explain why the Progenitors seeded the galaxy. It's been a long time since I've seen The Chase but I don't think that was covered. Was it just for posterity? Or something more?
Ego.
It could well be. That would be fairly realistic at least judging by human standards. I guess I'm hoping for more. But we'll see!Ego.
Show and tell day at Progenitor Academy.
There are a decent number of scifi stories that predict any species that evolved early on after the galaxy formation would feel lonely.
The story where they derived the origin of DNA clues was Sagan's Contact, and I think those aliens felt the same way. They wanted company.
I just re-watched The Chase. I think it's a good thing they decided to follow up on something with these kind of far-reaching implications and hope it goes well.
As to why the Progenitors did it, here's the dialogue from the episode:
HUMANOID: You're wondering who we are, why we have done this, how it has come that I stand before you, the image of a being from so long ago. Life evolved on my planet before all others in this part of the galaxy. We left our world, explored the stars, and found none like ourselves. Our civilization thrived for ages, but what is the life of one race, compared to the vast stretches of cosmic time? We knew that one day we would be gone, that nothing of us would survive. So, we left you. Our scientists seeded the primordial oceans of many worlds, where life was in its infancy. The seed codes directed your evolution toward a physical form resembling ours. This body you see before you, which is, of course, shaped as yours is shaped, for you are the end result. The seed codes also contained this message, which we scattered in fragments on many different worlds. It was our hope that you would have to come together in fellowship and companionship to hear this message. And if you can see and hear me, our hope has been fulfilled. You are a monument, not to our greatness, but to our existence. That was our wish, that you too would know life, and would keep alive our memory. There is something of us in each of you, and so, something of you in each other. Remember us.
As to why the Progenitors did it, here's the dialogue from the episode:
HUMANOID: You're wondering who we are, why we have done this, how it has come that I stand before you, the image of a being from so long ago. Life evolved on my planet before all others in this part of the galaxy. We left our world, explored the stars, and found none like ourselves. Our civilization thrived for ages, but what is the life of one race, compared to the vast stretches of cosmic time? We knew that one day we would be gone, that nothing of us would survive. So, we left you. Our scientists seeded the primordial oceans of many worlds, where life was in its infancy. The seed codes directed your evolution toward a physical form resembling ours. This body you see before you, which is, of course, shaped as yours is shaped, for you are the end result. The seed codes also contained this message, which we scattered in fragments on many different worlds. It was our hope that you would have to come together in fellowship and companionship to hear this message. And if you can see and hear me, our hope has been fulfilled. You are a monument, not to our greatness, but to our existence. That was our wish, that you too would know life, and would keep alive our memory. There is something of us in each of you, and so, something of you in each other. Remember us.
One of the reasons why I have always loved "The Chase" is that it's very much a representation of what STAR TREK is at its core. I'm thrilled that DISCO decided to use this episode as the springboard for the season, because while I have a lot of issues with DISCO, and it is at the very bottom of the list of franchise shows for me... DISCO certainly does have the spirit of the franchise embedded in it.
And for that reason (even more so than being what helped bring the franchise back to tv again), it has very much earned its name... STAR TREK.
And for that reason (even more so than being what helped bring the franchise back to tv again), it has very much earned its name... STAR TREK.
Thanks for sharing that. It's been so long since I've seen The Chase that I had forgotten!
The final scene was Star Trek through and through. The Romulan commander gave us some hope, and now we know the scientist probably felt the same way too. Its a great strand for Discovery to pick up.
The kitties had already developed and only had to slip out
It's an easy stream away
Discovery has been season 8-10 of TNG for 3 seasons.
Not really.
Season 3 = Not "Calypso"
Season 4 = TMP Part II
Season 5 = The Real "Chase"
Or, to put it another way:
Season 1 = Early Discovery
Season 2 = The Fork in the Road (leads to SNW, S31, and Discovery Proper)
Season 3 = Discovery Proper, Season 1
Season 4 = Discovery Proper, Season 2
Season 5 = Discovery Proper, Season 3
TNG Seasons 8, 9, and 10 are what I reserve for Picard. Although, given the way season-lengths used to work, I just fold all 30 episodes into "TNG Season 8" and call it a day. It makes up for TNG Season 2 only having 22 episodes, since the normal season length was 26 episodes.
Season 4 = TMP Part II
Season 5 = The Real "Chase"
Or, to put it another way:
Season 1 = Early Discovery
Season 2 = The Fork in the Road (leads to SNW, S31, and Discovery Proper)
Season 3 = Discovery Proper, Season 1
Season 4 = Discovery Proper, Season 2
Season 5 = Discovery Proper, Season 3
TNG Seasons 8, 9, and 10 are what I reserve for Picard. Although, given the way season-lengths used to work, I just fold all 30 episodes into "TNG Season 8" and call it a day. It makes up for TNG Season 2 only having 22 episodes, since the normal season length was 26 episodes.
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In practice the only season of Picard that is anything like TNG at all is season 3, and that's only because the cast is in it. There's nothing of familiarity in how it's made and very little of the story.
But I liked the idea Picard wasn't like TNG.
Picard is the least like the original source material of any the new shows. But I wanted to see what we were told: phases of Picard's life after the Enterprise. Season 1 did a great job with the plot they chose but it purposely doesn't feel like TNG.
SNW is not unlike TOS, it's just glossier. So it feels a lot more like it's source material.
Discovery started off feeling like something new, which I enjoyed, but by season 3, it was clearly doing TNG after the fall of the Federation.
All the sentiment Roddenberry tried to pour into TNG is in Discovery. Discovery attempts to not focus on the big bad like most of TNG did. Discovery focuses on relationships and crew the way post-Piller TNG did. Discovery focuses on understanding the alien as TNG did. Season 5 is actually doing a big budget TNG season!
You'd be hard-pressed to say season 3 Picard actually stood for anything other than the oft-repeated family of characters.
If I rated them on a scale of 1-5 to what was closest to TNG it would be:
P1- 1
P2- 1
P3- 2
D1 - 1
D2 - 1
D3 - 3
D4 - 4
D5 - 5
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Haven't watch episode 3 yet, so this may be answered but we know from episode 2 that the next clue was hidden on Trill.
How would a 24th century romulan get to trill so easily? Tensions were at their highest then...
How would a 24th century romulan get to trill so easily? Tensions were at their highest then...
Small vessel, a cloak, maybe some bribes to a few Yridians. Oh it can be done.
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