Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x08 - "All In"

[Paul755]

I was bored for this one. Didn’t think the episode was good or bad, just boring.

and of course they changed up how changelings…change. Guess sand looks cooler.

 

[Tuskin38]

Guess sand looks cooler.

It does.

 

[Tuskin38]

360 render of Book’s wanted poster
https://twitter.com/timothypeel1/status/1491910311556878342?s=21

 

[JoseNoodles]

The previous episode had a member of that species represented by a Xindi emblem

I looked up Xindi-Insectoid on Memory Alpha and your right, that species does appear to be Discovery's take on the Insectoids. I think I like the CGI Insectoids from Enterprise better though.

 

[NCC-73515]

They were blinking in a pattern to communicate to their partner, then later they passed behind a pillar as one species and came out the other side as another.

There was no partner, the blinking was meaningless

Interesting. I did not catch the connection to the omega particle. That episode always bugged me. The whole ship shut down because it detected the Omega particle. What happens if a ship happens to not have its original captain. Like if Janeway had died before then, would the ship have just been dead in the water? Bad, bad planning on Starfleet's part. Hopefully by the 32nd century, they came up with smarter protocols.

Command codes are transferred and so is the Omega protocol

 

[jackoverfull]

They thought the changeling was signalling to a partner but I'm pretty sure there was a line in there where Book and Tarka figured that it must have been a nervous tic (since the changeling was working alone)

exactly: there was no partner, so how exactly was he cheating? Also he started running because book looked at him wrong, apparently.

 

[Harpsichord]

exactly: there was no partner, so how exactly was he cheating? Also he started running because book looked at him wrong, apparently.

I think the idea was that the changeling was counting cards and then evading detection by changing forms when the staff started getting suspicious. But the execution feels weak because there are only ~30 people on the barge and it doesn't seem like it would be terribly hard for Haz's security to say "hey I don't remember letting that guy in here". Covid strikes again I guess.

 

[Search4]

Sorry that was unimpressive and tired. Filler. An excuse to have Michael and Book in the same place. Galaxy threatened but hey we need a card game.

And “Klingon hello” Michael won’t just stop Book and Tarka from the moment they are in the same place? Would it really be so hard for Owo to take the crazy scientist out?

Oh and let’s waste time on a fight scene or four when the Feds could just show up with enough latinim.

Congrats it’s a race to the bottom on Dis v Picard for worst casino episode. Gave it a 3.

 

[jackoverfull]

I think the idea was that the changeling was counting cards and then evading detection by changing forms when the staff started getting suspicious. But the execution feels weak because there are only ~30 people on the barge and it doesn't seem like it would be terribly hard for Haz's security to say "hey I don't remember letting that guy in here". Covid strikes again I guess.

precisely: there is a bouncer at the door checking everyone and they are actively searching for the cheater but don’t notice a lot of guys appearing from nowhere and then disappearing. But book and tarka notice in 5 minutes because he blinks wrong.

 

[ToddCam]

There was no partner, the blinking was meaningless


Command codes are transferred and so is the Omega protocol

Really. So Janeway dies and the ship says, "Hey Chakotay. Time for your briefing on the hush hush super secret yet also brazenly advertised with a giant omega symbol protocol." Nobody else on the ship even knows what it is. It's just stupid writing.

 

[jackoverfull]

Really. So Janeway dies and the ship says, "Hey Chakotay. Time for your briefing on the hush hush super secret yet also brazenly advertised with a giant omega symbol protocol." Nobody else on the ship even knows what it is. It's just stupid writing.

the whole omega directive isn’t a good example of good writing, HOWEVER this works: once you become the captain if the ship (position, not rank) the computer automatically grants you access to documents reserved to commanding officers alone.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Really. So Janeway dies and the ship says, "Hey Chakotay. Time for your briefing on the hush hush super secret yet also brazenly advertised with a giant omega symbol protocol." Nobody else on the ship even knows what it is. It's just stupid writing.

Well Chuckles is more trustworthy than your average Starfleet admiral

 

[Mr J]

I looked up Xindi-Insectoid on Memory Alpha and your right, that species does appear to be Discovery's take on the Insectoids. I think I like the CGI Insectoids from Enterprise better though.

It looks like the insectoids must have bred with the reptilians over the centuries...

 

[Deks]

Really. So Janeway dies and the ship says, "Hey Chakotay. Time for your briefing on the hush hush super secret yet also brazenly advertised with a giant omega symbol protocol." Nobody else on the ship even knows what it is. It's just stupid writing.

To be fair, keeping the Omega Molecule secret didn't make much sense. The UFP knows the dangers and other powers probably also wouldn't want to risk destruction of Warp capability to make it a reality... at least not without extensive testing and finding remote sectors of space which have nothing around them where they could do those tests.

But, if Janeway died for example before briefing Chakotay on Omega, then yes, by becoming captain of VOY, the computer would have likely given him access to top secret files that are 'captains eyes only' (because due to chain of command, he'd be the captain in case of Janeway's death or if she had been incapacitated)... and the computer would have probably positioned 'Omega briefing' as top priority in case he did encounter the molecule.

The circumstances were unique though... and Janeway did say that if they were in the AQ, SF would have sent a specialized team to deal with the threat.

 

[Deks]

It looks like the insectoids must have bred with the reptilians over the centuries...

Or some genetic engineering took place.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Maybe this particular changeling has nothing to do with the dominion. Could be one of the 100 who never decided to rejoin the Great Link.

His name is Sandy.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

 

[Vger23]

I really don't know what people want out of Star Trek anymore.

DSC is serialized, serious, action/violence-heavy, etc...people whine about how it's not fun, doesn't go to planets enough and blah blah blah.

DSC has light, episodic, fun planet-based adventure....people whine about it being filler.

So frustrating to be a fan sometimes...I remember back in the old days when it was simpler. "And the Children Shall Lead," "Code of Honor," and "Threshold" all blow. You know....easy stuff...stuff we could all agree on.

 

[Tuskin38]

And “Klingon hello” Michael won’t just stop Book and Tarka from the moment they are in the same place?

She’s not that person anymore. Have you paid attention to her character growth?

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I looked up Xindi-Insectoid on Memory Alpha and your right, that species does appear to be Discovery's take on the Insectoids. I think I like the CGI Insectoids from Enterprise better though.

I wonder if we'll eventually see a Gorn, so we can make the same comparison with one of them.

I prefer the ENT Andorians and Tellarites. Not as big a leap as with the Klingons, so they aren't too bad on DSC. I guess I just miss Shran.