Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x07 - "…But to Connect"

[Kamen Rider Blade]

That was a excellent bottle episode to do a lot of philosophizing on what to do and how to do it.

And nice reference in bringing back Isolytic Weapons and their ban from use.

Accoding to the schedule, Discovery will take a Mid Season break until 2022/02-10.

That's about a 6 week break where ST:Prodigy returns back and airs it's episodes for a bit.

 

[thribs]

Not a fan of Zora’s voice. It’s not as sexy as EDI’s or Gideon.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Not a fan of Zora’s voice. It’s not as sexy as EDI’s or Gideon.

Interesting factoid about Annabelle Wallis, who voices Zora. She's dating Chris Pine AKA Kelvin TimeLine's James T. Kirk.

 

[Ketrick]

Awesome episode! I gave it a 10!!!! Now, that's a Star Trek episode. I wonder what universe Tarka is from if he's not from the Mirror Universe, perhaps the Alternate Reality/Kelvin Timeline.

 

[TheMadCloner]

That might be the best episode of Star Trek in over 20 years. I’m floored.

Such pure Trek in this one, and Burnham reluctantly taking a personal hit for the greater good was soooo well done.

 

[NCC-73515]

The first Disco episode I totally missed XD
Nice debate and vote scenes, otherwise that was mostly buildup for whatever will come after the break.
Zora is really interesting now, felt like Measure of a Woman

 

[Finn]

I enjoyed it. But I'm a bit surprised they mentioned "all four quadrants" without seeing any known races from the Gamma and Delta Quadrants. The Dosi and the Kazon?

 

[Turtletrekker]

I enjoyed it. But I'm a bit surprised they mentioned "all four quadrants" without seeing any known races from the Gamma and Delta Quadrants. The Dosi and the Kazon?

The president did send greetings to those who were joining them by remote.

 

[Roald]

Wow, incredible episode... This season is just phenomenal..! I was actually expecting something totally different, something much larger in scope, with more action... Instead we got almost a bottle-show, with just two sets really (the Federation Council and the quarters in Discovery... And I'm I glad it dared to stay small, it dared to be this minimalistic production wise, but it was huge on substance: it raised some very interesting questions, and I was really happy to see the majority of worlds vote for first contact instead of an attack. Of course the haters are gonna hate, of course they will maintain that Kurtzman doesn't care about Trek, or that the writers are all hacks... But the truth is: this was 100% Star Trek, and this was a damn good episode..!

 

[DaveyNY]

Well, what can one say .... I gave it a TEN.

As far as I'm concerned, this episode and it's cliff-hanger ending is right up there with the "Best of Both Worlds".

Thank goodness we don't have to wait as long for the answers.


Curious that nobody thought to ask Zora what the actual problem was with giving the coordinates.

 

[Kelso]

I love that this episode was just people standing around and debating.

I was genuinely surprised and impressed that the council voted to make first contact. It seems that it's always easier to convince a group of frightened people to attack rather than to reason. Good for them!

The conflict between Burnham and Book seems to be drawn very naturally from the characters, as well.

I liked that they seem to be using Zora as a metaphor for the trans experience, with Stamets as the older guy who is reluctant to challenge his views and unwilling, at first, to recognize this person for what she is. I'm not in a position to say how effectively that's being done, but I enjoy it when science fiction concepts are used as allegories for real world social issues.

 

[StarMan]

I suppose the next logical step for Zora will be First Officer.

Here's an idea: destroy the thing that could literally wipe out your entire civilization, then give the guys on the other end a call and explain what's happening at your end.

 

[DaveyNY]

Dr. Kovich is going to be really pissed when he finds out that Tarka is from the MU.

I suppose the next logical step for Zora will be First Officer.

Here's an idea: destroy the thing that could literally wipe out your entire civilization, then give the guys on the other end a call and explain what's happening at your end.

Yeah, funny how being distraught over losing one's entire planet can cloud ones judgement.

I wonder what the likelihood is of any other Kwejians off-planet when it was destroyed?

 

[Kelso]

Unless I missed something, Tarka is native to our universe. The "home" he refers to is the seemingly paradisal universe he and his buddy aspired to escape to.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Great episode!

For me, making first contact is the right decision. At least try to talk to them and learn more about them. Try to explain to them the damage that the DMA has caused. If 10-C is malevolent or unreasonable then you can consider your next action which may require the destruction of the DMA but maybe it is a huge misunderstanding and 10-C would remove the DMA when they realize the destruction it has caused? On the other hand, if you rush in and just destroy the DMA, you solve a short term problem but you potentially cause huge long term problems that could be much worse. Destroying the DMA would be viewed as an act of war which would lead 10-C to retaliate in an even bigger way. Considering how powerful 10-C is, there retaliation could be brutal. What if 10-C sends 20 DMA's?

Based on the mid season teaser, I suspect the second half of the season will be a race between Starfleet trying to make contact with 10-C and Tarka and Book trying to destroy the DMA. And it looks like Michael will try to intercept Tarka and Book before they destroy the DMA. It also looks like Starfleet does make contact with 10-C and the finale will deal with who 10-C is and how to deal with them. I am guessing there will be some big confrontation but Michael will talk to 10-C and calm everything down.

 

[Saul]

Season 4 is way stronger than season 3. But I would really like the show to get a move on with the anomaly storyline. It's the least interesting thing about season 4 and isn't really needed.

This episode sometimes was interesting and I wouldn't have minded the long speeches so much if Discovery was not full of them already. I like how this sets Book up against Burnham. That's going to be interesting.

I'm on the side of first contact.

 

[eschaton]

As is usually the case this season, I liked the episode, but it feels like I have a bit more nitpicks than most people.

I do very much appreciate that the Discovery writers felt confident enough in their storytelling that they allowed an entire episode - complete with A plot and B plot - to roll forward with zero action at all. While I felt that last episode was a bit too talky in a bad way, here I thought it worked quite well. While the writers were in no way even-handed when it came to the moral quandaries offered in both of the plots of this episode, at least they gave the "bad" side somewhat of a fair shake - extensive arguments as to why a first strike was needed, and why Zora could be a threat.

But..there are still issues here. One is I simply don't think the VFX team is up to skiff when it comes to creative solutions. Like at the beginning of the episode, when they showed a galaxy map with target sites, even though the script made it clear the responsible race came from outside of the galaxy. Or how Zora's "subconscious" exclusively has clips from Discovery's past few seasons. Another is the idea that a meeting of more or less all known races in the galaxy could really be swayed by a single speech (though I understand the needs of drama require this to work). But mostly, it's that once again they decided to make Stamets into a jackass - making him fear Zora and wanting her shut down despite there being absolutely nothing in his established character suggesting he would do this. At least they did the legwork with Book making him into a foil, but nothing of the sort was done with Paul...though it got much more tolerable at the end of the episode.

 

[Precious Tritium]

Best episode of the season for me. Both storylines, especially the Zora one could have easily fallen flat on their faces, but both worked extremely well for me. Might be Stamets best episode since season 2, a character who I feel has been sadly neglected.

Book going off on his own quest for vengeance was something I saw coming a mile off, but it didn’t make that final moment any less of a gut punch.

This is still for me the most consistent season of the show. The heights might not be as high as season 2, but it’s yet to reach any terrible lows yet. For me, anyway.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I suppose the next logical step for Zora will be First Officer.

Here's an idea: destroy the thing that could literally wipe out your entire civilization, then give the guys on the other end a call and explain what's happening at your end.

Like "your dog kept coming over here on our lawn"

 

[fireproof78]

Like "your dog kept coming over here on our lawn"

So I shot it.