Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"
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My problem with Gabrielle Burnham‘s Red Angel suit is not necessarily how it does all the various things it is capable of – it‘s basically the Swiss army knife of magic Trek devices – but why it was built that way. Why would a time travel suit designed for the express purpose of ”investigating the past“ be capable of moving churches, disabling defenses, setting signals and raising the dead? It doesn‘t really make sense.
Or does it? Gabrielle Burnham was an operative for Section 31, so maybe the Project Daedalus mission wasn‘t all that scientific and benevolent it was made out to be. Hence, she equipped the suit with defensive abilities. Later, she learned how to upgrade the suit with future tech she was observing during all her incursions in the centuries before her time on Terralysium.
Am I doing it right, @Alan Roi?
Reasonable supposition based on the narrative,
but there's another way of looking at it too:
Or, as with much of the technology/science we've discovered, its designed for one thing, and as it turns out with some tweaks it can do things that we didn't expect. Look at how our understanding of the nuclear field developed. Look, it can make watches glow, then it can make massive bombs that can wipe out cities, then it can make powerplants that power whole cities, then it can be used to kill cancer cells. And that is, of course, just the tip of the iceberg.
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Yet they came across a Red Mass of Energy that somehow became capable of understanding everything it had learned and remembered it all in such a way that it was able to pass it's entire knowledge base on to other's.
THAT'S believable in the context of the story, but the "Universe" projecting a flash of seven red lights that can all be seen at the same time as an omen, isn't.
If one wants a more feasible and less faith oriented explanation, then perhaps it was actually the Big Red Ball of Energy that did it.
i thought i just did - at least for me it would even make sense
The question I had is, is this reaction in characters where it comes to the Discovery leadership and the Discovery Captain and crew. Have they trusted their appointed experts even when the solution presented may seem extreme to an outside observer? It seems to me, this is something that the show has gone with since day one. And IMO, if its in character, then the show makes sense on a basis of the consistency of 'trust your experts' no matter how wacky they might seem to be.
Of course, where it comes to suspension of disbelief, everyone is different. I had a friend who couldn't ever accept the premise of Face/Off because Cage and Travolta had, according to her, body types that were too different.
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I thought they said it was designed as a weapon (made in response to a similar suit the Klingons were making - which is why the Klingons came after the powered time crystal)? And after that BOTH sides abandoned the research as 'too dangerous' because neither side knew what happened to the powered time crystal and the suit, until the events we witnessed in 2257.My problem with Gabrielle Burnham‘s Red Angel suit is not necessarily how it does all the various things it is capable of – it‘s basically the Swiss army knife of magic Trek devices – but why it was built that way. Why would a time travel suit designed for the express purpose of ”investigating the past“ be capable of moving churches, disabling defenses, setting signals and raising the dead? It doesn‘t really make sense.
Or does it? Gabrielle Burnham was an operative for Section 31, so maybe the Project Daedalus mission wasn‘t all that scientific and benevolent it was made out to be. Hence, she equipped the suit with defensive abilities. Later, she learned how to upgrade the suit with future tech she was observing during all her incursions in the centuries before her time on Terralysium.
Am I doing it right, @Alan Roi?
It sure wasn't 3000 ships at Earth greeting the Kaylon. Just the ones nearby. Anyhow....
Still doesn't explain why the Krill is letting Earth continue to exist since it seems Earth leaves itself undefended (This is just an example of the scrutiny 'The Orville' might have if it didn't have old TNG fans viewing it through such rose colored glasses.)
It's done by pretty much 100% Trek alumni at this point (plus Seth MacFarlane) - and it has all the hackneyed TNG tropes as a result. But with it's currenmt ratrings stabalized at such a small level, it's fans don't want to do anything but sing its praises because it's FOX and they all know FOX' history with anything science fiction once ratings fall. (Yes, they'll axe any show with a large enough ratings decline but FOX will even kill moderately successful sci-fi based shows.)
Too soon, too soon...they killed firefly
To The Expanse it is..
Those are all just alternate universes.To The Expanse it is..
When is season 4 again? December(ish)? Can’t wait.Those are all just alternate universes.
I find it hilarious that they basically rendered the last two seasons of STD absolutely pointless in their last minute attempt a a retcon. All it took was a few words from Spock.
What words are you talking about?
Imaginary ones. Those are the best. You can't disprove a negative.
Well, since its launch from Earth its prime directive took a serious beating... I don't think there was anything in it about "disinfecting planets of their carbon-units"...
I guess they were "forget Discovery", followed by him personally mind-melding with everyone he ever encounters.
I think I missed the mind-melding part.
If you think that because something is classified that renders it pointless then you have a lot to learn about the world of politics.
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