Assuming people aren't disagreeing with you on their own and are part of some unthinking hive mind would certainly constitute being "spoken down to", so let's not do that again, okay?
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x08 - "If Memory Serves"
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You got farther than I did. I just laughed.
Hello, Beamer, what's happening? Ummm, I'm gonna need you to go ahead and post tomorrow. So if you could start posting around 9:00 that would be great, mmkay?AGAIN with the Bill Lumbergh voice.
Yep. I don't think TOS ever flat out stated that Vulcan was a founding member and not a more recent addition, if they were more recent it could explain why their culture wasn’t particularly well known.
As an additional follow up to the “concepts from the novelverse” brought up earlier in the thread, I believe it was the Franz Joseph Technical Manual that first established Vulcan, Andor and Tellar as other founding members and that they were all located relatively close to Earth.
In terms of how many species he has encountered, he's a lieutenant fresh out of his first five year mission, so his list may not actually be that long at this point, and it's certainly no stretch to imagine the Talosians were among the most powerful telepathic species he encountered - they're one of the most mentally powerful species Spock (and the audience) ever encounters.
Plus as a nice tie-in to The Menagerie, the Talosians choice to help him here helps us understand Spock's motivations in taking Pike there even more.
I apologise for my over reaction
I do think some of the things like Spock going to Talos, and the rift with Burnham should have been open to scrutiny.
I do think some of the things like Spock going to Talos, and the rift with Burnham should have been open to scrutiny.
Gotta say, I'm kinda hoping for Captain Gary Cole now.
Yeah. Probably so.
I have had an interesting thought about the Menagerie after having absorbed this episode. Posit: Pike's accident will in fact be an illusion courtesy of the Talosians as he wants to help facilitate his return to Talos IV and Vina. The beep beep chair is too an illusion, to ensure he will be left alone to spend the rest of his days with her and what we see of him at the end of the menagerie isn't an illusion at all.
Won't that guy who made the functioning replica chair to troll along the sidewalk be disappointed...
That theory makes me BEEPing sad.
The beep chair is just censoring swearing. Pike is a bad place emotionally.
If wheelchair Pike had been Darth Vader after he was placed inside the life-support armor that scene would have blown out his yellow bulb.
After the near-unanimous praise this episode has recieved, I'm wondering if Disco has had it's "Best of Both Worlds" moment.
Probably closer to a 'Measure of a Man' or 'Q Who' moment. Still a lot of detractors out there who found plenty aspects of the ep objectionable and have complaints about the second season in general.
Don't question the beepchair or the beepchair will start questioning you
tbf, the first season was better.
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