That's kind of where the Talosians hang out. He specifically needed their powers to sort out his mind and show Burnham his memories from melding with the Red Angel.I don't understand why Spock has to go to Talos IV of all places
That's kind of where the Talosians hang out. He specifically needed their powers to sort out his mind and show Burnham his memories from melding with the Red Angel.I don't understand why Spock has to go to Talos IV of all places
Yup, and I took from it Burnham provided an independent time line for the Talosians to sort out Spock's memory and Un-Billy Pilgrim his memories.That's kind of where the Talosians hang out. He specifically needed their powers to sort out his mind and show Burnham his memories from melding with the Red Angel.
That's kind of where the Talosians hang out. He specifically needed their powers to sort out his mind and show Burnham his memories from melding with the Red Angel.
A show with Spock and Captain Pike. Spock's mind is mixed up. What kind of folks with experience playing with minds and memories would they have in common? It is a mystery. Why would writers do that?Talosians are indigenous to Talos ?
Well I never
Still doesn't explain why it HAD to be their help that he sought.
Indeed.Hmm. It kind of does. It's very clearly explained in the episode. He needed their specific power set.
Talosians have great mental powers and the ability to influence minds. Spock might not have been sure whether they could help, but he had reason to be optimistic based on what he knows about them. He also knew that Federation medicine could not help him and that S31 was out to get him. So, that provided more incentive to get help outside of the Federation. The Talosians sure seem like a logical choice.Talosians are indigenous to Talos ?
Well I never
Still doesn't explain why it HAD to be their help that he sought.
I also read some posts on the ST subreddit that were claiming SMG was both too wooden in her acting and over-emoting all the time. Michael is too smug and unlike-able a character, while also being too perfect and too heroic.![]()
Talosians are indigenous to Talos ?
Well I never
Still doesn't explain why it HAD to be their help that he sought.
Federation/Section 31 doctors couldn't help (he tried that first) - and he knew of the Talosians mind altering ability; so while he didn't know for certain the Talosians would be able to help; logically, they were the next best choice.Talosians are indigenous to Talos ?
Well I never
Still doesn't explain why it HAD to be their help that he sought.
Someone here made the same claim. After laughing I responded "Huh?"I also read some posts on the ST subreddit that were claiming SMG was both too wooden in her acting and over-emoting all the time. Michael is too smug and unlike-able a character, while also being too perfect and too heroic.![]()
Actually, Both The Cage and Menagerie show their willingness to help! At the end of The Cage, the Talosians let the Enterprise leave after discovering the misunderstanding. They also let Vina stay so she can enjoy her life. Later, in Menagerie, Spock takes Pike there and they do help him. Again they're helpful *and* Spock is willing to bet on both their willingness and ability to help. (Of course, Menagerie hasn't happened yet, so he's only going on the events in The Cage.)It's not as if the Talosians were exactly champions of fair play in "The Menagerie" is it ?
That's what I'm trying to say
How could Spock possibly know they would help him, how did he know they weren't going to manipulate him and Burnham for their own purposes ?
Are the Talosians the only telepathic species ever encountered by Spock ?
I doubt it.
As for being "hung up about it" to paraphrase, I'm merely asking valid questions, and for the second time on this thread I feel as if I'm being spoken down to by some, it's almost like a herd mentality on here at times.
Its a forum for fans to debate opinion, and my opinion is as valid as anyones.
People who want to complain will find something to complain about, even if the complaints are contradictory and make no sense.Someone here made the same claim. After laughing I responded "Huh?"
It's not as if the Talosians were exactly champions of fair play in "The Menagerie" is it ?
That's what I'm trying to say
How could Spock possibly know they would help him, how did he know they weren't going to manipulate him and Burnham for their own purposes ?
Are the Talosians the only telepathic species ever encountered by Spock ?
I doubt it.
As for being "hung up about it" to paraphrase, I'm merely asking valid questions, and for the second time on this thread I feel as if I'm being spoken down to by some, it's almost like a herd mentality on here at times.
Its a forum for fans to debate opinion, and my opinion is as valid as anyones.
You know, SMG seems like such a warm, radiant person. I really hope these vocal detractors don't wear her down into a typical jaded celebrity.
Man, people can be such d!cks sometimes.
I seriously doubt anyone involved in the production pays all that close attention to social media as they KNOW it's overall going to be somewhat toxic - IE They know what to expect, and avoid it until after the work is done.You know, SMG seems like such a warm, radiant person. I really hope these vocal detractors don't wear her down into a typical jaded celebrity.
Man, people can be such d!cks sometimes.
Those dudebros drive me nuts. She’s a member of Starforce who only remembers the last six years of her life. Of course she’s stoic! But she showed that buried beneath the shell is a fun and snarky person too. I thought she was great.It's funny how this is the exact same complaint the dudebros all throw at Brie Larson as Carol Danvers, isn't it? She doesn't smile enough, she's too wooden, she doesn't show any emotions! Why is she in a real uniform instead of a sexy catsuit?
Why is she in a real uniform instead of a sexy catsuit?
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