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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x04 - "An Obol for Charon"

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They did give a name for Enterprise’s chief engineer

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I was disappointed it wasn't Chief Moves-With-Burning-Grace from the Early Voyages comics.

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Just watched episode four and though it was a solid 8.

Everyone worked well with each other and Tilly being in the Mycelial Network opens the way for a return of Culber, liked Stamets and Reno, I have a suspicion that she may be a Preserver.

Nice to finally see Number One even though it was short, her character will be fleshed out more if/when they go ahead with Pike/Enterprise.

Saru's realisation about his species could open the door to him going home, which would bump up Burnham to acting Captain, I like him and don't mind if he stays but I suspect spending so long in makeup everyday has got to be bummer.
 
They would have to be able to speak the language that another person was being translated into. I don't doubt that some of them speak more than one language, but their chances of matching up with someone in the room were low. Saru beat the odds by knowing so many.
 
There would probably be issues with royalties when it comes to using a character created for the comics.

Kor

I think character credit royalties only apply when the character was written for TV, and if used again in TV that specific writer who created the character would be paid. I don't think the same applies to books or comics, since that is licensed out by the studio itself and whatever is created for those books and comics is already owned by the studio and not by the writers themselves. I could also very easily be wrong about this.
 
They would have to be able to speak the language that another person was being translated into. I don't doubt that some of them speak more than one language, but their chances of matching up with someone in the room were low. Saru beat the odds by knowing so many.

Exactly, he was the only one who could keep up with the computer switching languages every few seconds. Typing the solution in manually being the only option. I'm sure many of them spoke more than one language, but it was the ear implants (I assume that's where they are) causing the issue.
 
Exactly, he was the only one who could keep up with the computer switching languages every few seconds. Typing the solution in manually being the only option. I'm sure many of them spoke more than one language, but it was the ear implants (I assume that's where they are) causing the issue.
They're all equipped with Babel fishes. And towels.

Kor
 
But the point is, for that reason, we have no idea that "Federation Standard" even is English.
Pike described the colonists in New Eden as speaking Federation standard
And the lingua franca aboard both Archer and Kirk's Enterprises was identified as English on multiple occasions.

I seem to remember first encountering the term "Federation Standard English" in the Okudas' Encyclopedia. That's probably where they picked it up. (Although I'm sure it could have been used in novels or somewhere else before that, and it wouldn't be that hard to come up with independently, either.)

They said the word teleporter, based on the context they were referring to Number One. So are they using it as an adjective? “One who teleports”?
You have correctly inferred the meaning, but misidentified the part of speech. It's a noun, not an adjective. You get half credit. (Sorry, I used to work as a tutor and teacher's assistant. Old habits...;))

-MMoM:D
 
And the lingua franca aboard both Archer and Kirk's Enterprises was identified as English on multiple occasions.

I seem to remember first encountering the term "Federation Standard English" in the Okudas' Encyclopedia. That's probably where they picked it up. (Although I'm sure it could have been used in novels or somewhere else before that, and it wouldn't be that hard to come up with independently, either.)

Still, it might have drifted over time.

Honestly, given how the Universal Translator is shown to work on the show, what does "language" even mean any longer? If people from a very young age get implants which allow them to instantaneously understand 99% of the spoken and written languages they come across, wouldn't things drift over time so that every family was speaking their own deeply divergent dialect?
 
Isn’t what Saru said about the Prime Directive not counting because they’ve been lied to similar to those Earth chaps? I mean they think Earth was destroyed. Shouldn’t they be told it wasn’t?
The Colony scientist WAS told. What he does with that info is up to him.

I think I missed a lot here. Sometimes the dialogue just flies. I feel like a bit of an idiot- but here it goes:

Why doesn't Saru have fear anymore? Were the ganglia literally causing the fear, and then the just fell off? That's weird.

Was Burnham cutting the ganglia going to kill him? Also odd.

The Enterprise malfunctioned because of holo-communicators?

That creature kidnapped Tilly to the spore network? Or the Upside Down? Huh?

Maybe I shouldn't be drinking my James T. Kirk bourbon during this show.
The impression I got was that the Kelpians believed that if they let this process go on, it would end in madness and horrible painful death; so the custom was for them to kill themselves to avoid that. It's more likely it's part of their biological maturation (IE prior to 'adulthood they retain the 'fear reflex' to survive to 'adulthood' where the Ganglia fall off naturally - but they retain their other abilities and strength.)

The - "This is the natural end of a Kelpians life, and if you let it go all the way a Kelpian will just go insane and die painfully..." was a myth spread by the Baul (sp?) so that they wouldn't have Kelpians with the ability (and desire) to fight back and change the way things are - and further the 'Priests' (like Saru's father) would just reinforce this so AS SOON as a Kelpian showed these symptoms they would immediately commit ritual suicide - so no Kelpian knows the truth.
 
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Wait, did I misunderstood something or did Reno say that somebody else was chief engineer, not Stamets?

Yes, she said the Chief Engineer (whomever that may be) told her to (do whatever she came to spore-engineering to do). Or at least, that is what I heard.

The multiple theories on the layout of Engineering and the command hierarchy seem to be bit by bit confirmed; that there is an actual Chief Engineer that we've never seen and that the Spore-drive control room is an Engineering Lab (mentioned in like one line in first season) or also-known-as Starboard(?) Engineering? I've seen this in other threads but don't recall which parts of dialogue it was mentioned.

I don't know what it is, but there's something fun about learning about elements of Discovery (the actual ship) in tiny pieces when we've been so use to having every important section of the ship be seen or mentioned in every episode. It's like we're learning about the ship the same way we're getting to know the characters over time, their building relationships, and so forth.

I hope we get a new major set every season, like how Agents of SHIELD kinda has a new base of operations every season. I can't wait for Discovery's Stellar Cartography room! Remember, she's a science vessel so that room is probably badass.
 
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They said the word teleporter, based on the context they were referring to Number One. So are they using it as an adjective? “One who teleports”?

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That through me for a second, I think it's the first time I've heard them use teleport instead of transport in Trek.
I think character credit royalties only apply when the character was written for TV, and if used again in TV that specific writer who created the character would be paid. I don't think the same applies to books or comics, since that is licensed out by the studio itself and whatever is created for those books and comics is already owned by the studio and not by the writers themselves. I could also very easily be wrong about this.
Yeah, when this has come up over in the literature forum the authors have said they don't get any kind of money or control or anything.
Wait, did I misunderstood something or did Reno say that somebody else was chief engineer, not Stamets?
He's not, he's just in charge of the jump drive and the other stuff related to the Mycelial Network. He's a scientist, not an engineer.
I forgot to mention before that I loved that we got a lot more Linus this week. I saw somebody mention CGI, but I had assumed he was a costume with an animatronic mask.
 
The multiple theories on the layout of Engineering and the command hierarchy seem to be bit by bit confirmed; that there is an actual Chief Engineer that we've never seen and that the Spore-drive control room is an Engineering Lab (mentioned in like one line in first season) or also-known-ask Starboard(?) Engineering? I've seen this in other threads but don't recall which parts of dialogue it was mentioned.

Though I could have sworn Reno also said something about how she had to go through the spore lab to actually get to the warp drive, which is why it was a problem when the room got locked down.
 
Isn’t what Saru said about the Prime Directive not counting because they’ve been lied to similar to those Earth chaps? I mean they think Earth was destroyed. Shouldn’t they be told it wasn’t?
The way I see it, I think General Order One might allow Saru telling his fellow Kelpiens the truth (not the truth about the Federation, but the truth about the Vaharai), but not simply because the Keliens have been lied to, but only because Saru is himself a Kelpien who came upon that truth himself, and not necessarily through knowledge given to him by the Federation.

Saru is a free-thinker who might have discovered the truth on his own, whether he stayed on his home planet or not.
 
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Though I could have sworn Reno also said something about how she had to go through the spore lab to actually get to the warp drive, which is why it was a problem when the room got locked down.

It could be that if there are two mirrored labs on both sides of Main Engineering (port and starboard), those are the access rooms to the core and we only see the core through a hypothetical big window in Main. That door she comes through that they added to the Spore room (where we conveniently see people walking by in every scene they show it to remind us its there, like the new back section of the bridge, haha) could lead directly to main engineering.

It's kind of fun to think about how all this drama that happened in season 1 with the Spore drive, the Main Engineering crew were just hanging out literally one door over.
 
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