Sure, but there have been clear signs of the opposite as well.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x11 - "The Wolf Inside"
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Sure, but there have been clear signs of the opposite as well.
I've never heard of this. Is this an accepted theory or is it, basically, yours? Not that there's anything wrong with it
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it!
I got excited when I saw Shakespeare quotes as episode titles, given Trek's long history of drawing inspiration from the Bard: http://bardfilm.blogspot.com/2009/06/shakespeare-and-star-trek-complete.htmlIt's hard to imagine the Trek writers picking such specific moments from The Tempest and Macbeth without having a specific sense of what they were looking to convey. My hopes are high.
Well, there's no way it could have any direct information on the future of the MU. The post by eschaton that I was replying to was going off of your last point: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/sta...-the-wolf-inside.292260/page-36#post-12327024
The Defiant's databanks, since they're from 10 years in the future relative to the Discovery, could hold information about the Discovery's missions. Even though the Disco is in the MU right now, they're still expected to document their experiences and report back to Starfleet if they make it out alive.
If, for example, Discovery reports that Burnham or Lorca kills MU Georgiou in a fight, and Lorca takes her place as Emperor (or doesn't return to the PU with the rest of the crew), that would give anyone in the MU some useful information about what will happen. The Discovery logs could also be present in the Defiant's databanks but have no useful information, or be classified. They might not be in the databanks at all, but it's more fun to hope that they are.
Ultimately, any speculation on what might happen in the show doesn't really matter, especially when it involves time offsets - it's just an entertaining way to pass the time between episodes.
I hope we get a reference to Hoshi in the next episode. Even if Georgiou isn't related by family or royal household to Empress Sato it'd be cool if she were shown on a computer display or mentioned in a line of dialogue as being the Terran who delivered the Defiant to the Empire and thus expanded its power and glory.
Even after the Discovery makes it back home, I'm sure the crew would write their ship's logs VERY carefully.
Specifically: The DSC crew will know the risk that their logs might become part of the Defiant's records. And thus they will phrase those logs in such a way as to not reveal anything about the future, to those in the Terran Empire who will one day get ahold of said logs (and to the crew of the "current" version of the Defiant, who obviously must never know of the fate that awaits them...
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My guess is a LOT of Starfleet's records of crew encounters with the Mirror Universe are heavily redacted and for the eyes of only the highest levels of Starfleet Intelligence and organizations like Section 31. You didn't see Kirk or Sisko and their respective crews go running around telling everybody they'd just been in a parallel universe where humans are fascistic killers and tyrants, the Klingons and Cardassians now run things with their typical levels of brute force and much of the known galaxy was under the oppressive rule of one totalitarian regime or another.
I doubt anything the Discovery logs record of the MU will become known beyond that ship and the highest echelons of Starfleet Command.
I doubt anything the Discovery logs record of the MU will become known beyond that ship and the highest echelons of Starfleet Command.
It occurs to me that specific references to interphasic space from TOS and various references to Enterprise characters and events may also lay the groundwork for digging up the augment virus and its potential antidote. Its existence may directly impact what happens with the Klingons back in the Prime Universe. This series has proven to require a-priori knowledge of what happened in other series.
I love Michelle Yeoh and am excited to see more of Philippa Georgiou.
I have nothing to contribute beyond that.
I have nothing to contribute beyond that.
i can't possibly comment on that
Given the way that Temporal Investigators, or whatever their title was, immediately drop on Sisko for going back in time I would imagine Starfleet is very strict on those reports.
especially as none of them EVER talked to kirk
Something's fishy with Starfleet reports and their availability to other starship skippers in general: our heroes are always facing amazing space phenomena "for the first time", despite all their predecessors having had adventures with those already.
Then again, even a single set of heroes can forget about an adventure they themselves had, sometimes just two weeks earlier! Perhaps there's something in starship life support systems that affects the ability to form longterm memories? Or perhaps there are actually four uniform colors: red, blue, gold, and black, with the last one coming with a smart black tie, sunglasses, and a shiny metal wand with a red light at one end?
Timo Saloniemi
Then again, even a single set of heroes can forget about an adventure they themselves had, sometimes just two weeks earlier! Perhaps there's something in starship life support systems that affects the ability to form longterm memories? Or perhaps there are actually four uniform colors: red, blue, gold, and black, with the last one coming with a smart black tie, sunglasses, and a shiny metal wand with a red light at one end?
Timo Saloniemi
DS9 is 100 years later, anything could have happened.
I suspect Lorca IS from the MU, but is more like mirror Spock in that he is not a fan of the Empire, and would like to see it taken down. He either found himself in the PrU or traveled there deliberately, but is working to undermine the Empire. Once he found himself in the PrU he saw a society without barbarism and is using it to try and model a new social order for his universe. I think Prime Lorca and MU Lorka may not be that much different from each other.
They claim season 2 will be more that.
I totally agree...but I read a quote in a twitter Q&A from Sullivan basically saying (perhaps confirming is the better word) that the longer arc of this series is supposed to be about watching Starfleet become what we see it as in the later 23rd and 24th centuries. He actually said that they all knew it would be easier form a continuity standpoint to make a post-Nemesis series...but that version of Starfleet is not what they wanted to show, and so they fit it in before TOS to show that evolution.
Now, I'm not here to debate the wisdom of that decision and/or to argue about "WHAT ABOUT CAPTAIN PIIIIKKKKEEE????" or whatever...I just mean to point out that I think the intent is to show an evolution toward exploration and enlightenment.
If that's true...I actually think that's better than just dropping us into the middle of utopia. I'd rather see how it's built than just exist there.
I think we have a lot to look forward to.
I still resist these theories and this logic because it would essentially mean the end of the Lorca character after this season. I highly doubt that Starfleet Command would knowingly have a mirror-universe double in charge of a star ship.
sigh....
Yeah, unfortunately more fuel for negativity for some people, though:
"TEH FANWANKS....!!!!!! ARGHGHGHGHHHHH!!! DISCOVERY IS TEH SUX!! ORVILLE YAY!!!"
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