I'm not even sure what the purpose served of yall goin on about religion, supremacy, hate and lynchings is.
I know I'm kinda butting in here, but it doesn't seem to me like either of you know what yall are goin on about anymore here.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x06 - "Lethe"
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I'm not even sure what the purpose served of yall goin on about religion, supremacy, hate and lynchings is.
I know I'm kinda butting in here, but it doesn't seem to me like either of you know what yall are goin on about anymore here.
to treat radiation burns on obviously ill advised multi-thousand meter space suit trips.
I compared Vulcans who do not practice IDIC or have racist attitudes (which seems to surprise some fans) to real life Christians who do not practice what they preach. (which seems to offend one fan).
That's it.
I dunno how many quotes ago that was but it seems like yall got lost in a circular "nuh uh" "yuh huh" thing.
Like step-sister, like step-brother
I think that’s the joke that made me laugh in Or like episode one...the droid science officer, who is very much part Spock, from a planet that is ‘legendarily rascist’ (as is ridiculously so, not as in beards and Hercules and stuff.)
It’s basically Vulcan is t it. Everyone looks at McCoy and his hobgoblin stuff in the dynamic, but never how often Spock points out how superior he is...and other Vulcans are often worse at it.
However...it is not all Vulcans. For my money, I actually like Tuvok more as Vulcan characters go, and of course when Seven does her superiority stick there’s an underlying vulnerability in her argument, and it ends up leaning into Chekovs ‘mother Russia’ stick in places.
Perhaps Kirk was fantasy GR in the 23rd century?
Henry Ford's first car was still a car. But no one today wants to buy one of those.
There's always the Tribble.....I would like at least one likeable character .. please one. Someone to care about - sigh.
If the Model T still sold for $300 new, I'm sure there would be a market, even if they are no longer roadworthy.
Ford built a few new model T's in 2003 for the 100 year anniversary, but they went to museums. You can pick up a used one in good running order for a few thousand dollars. There are hundreds of thousands of them still out there. If I could make room in the garage..
It may be splitting hairs, but, personally, I don't need characters - even the leads - to be "likable." Dexter Morgan, Don Draper, Tony Soprano, Wednesday and Mad Sweeney are not the slightest bit likable in any traditional sense. But they do have relatable enough qualities I can empathize with so I understand why they do what they do, even if I completely disagree.
Another myth........
if that number is inaccurate I wouldn't call it a myth, rather a mishandling of information and continuity.
According to one of the creators of Star Trek Vulcans can do the do anytime they want but they have to do the do every 7 years.
" A common misconception associated with the series (and Spock in particular) is that Vulcans only have sex once every seven years. However, pon farr is not coincident with the sex lives of Vulcans, and they are able to have intercourse without the affliction, and thus more than once every seven years. Star Trek: The Original Series writer and continuity story editor D. C. Fontana explains that pon farr is not the only time that Vulcans feel sexual desire or engage in sexual activity:
Vulcans mate normally any time they want to. However, every seven years you do the ritual, the ceremony, the whole thing. The biological urge. You must, but any other time is any other emotion—humanoid emotion—when you're in love. When you want to, you know when the urge is there, you do it. This every-seven-years business was taken too literally by too many people who don't stop and understand. We didn't mean it only every seven years. I mean, every seven years would be a little bad, and it would not explain the Vulcans of many different ages which are not seven years apart."[1
Makes sense since I doubt young Amanda would wait that long for the Big O not with a race that gets more virile with age.
See, I don't even think a character needs to be relatable. They just need to be:
a. Entertaining
b. Have personality traits above and beyond what the plot requires of them.
c. Be written in a consistent and plausible fashion.
Sorry if this was posted already, from TrekCore's facebook page
Vulcans making sure never to forget their biggest mistake
Yeah, the desert scenes at the beginning of "The Vulcan Hello" were shot in Jordan, I believe. And we've also seen some quick footage in clips showing Burnham in a forested area, which is likely location work as well -- from the episode "Into the Forest I Go" is a good bet.
If likeability in a lead (or otherwise) character was so important, most myths and classics would not have had 1% of the shelf-life they've received.
Likeability is overrated by mostly television viewers because when they SEE someone projected into their living (or bed) rooms, somehow that person has to be a non-threatening gooey endearing mass full of shits and giggles to be able to "survive" in that show. Nobody cared about likeability in the age of books and even movies. Citizen Charles Foster Kane likeable? No. Godfather Vito Corleane likeable? No. Mr. Darcy likeable? No. Achilles likeable? No. I can name a thousand more unlikeable but compelling characters that carried the day throughout the ages.
It's overrated.
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