I'm going to guess "Greatest of all Time," and not "Gnawer of any Twigs."
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x01 - "The Vulcan Hello"
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One thing I love so far is the complete abandonment of the TNG 'Berman Era tropes' like:
Oh, our sensors can't 'see'/'read' something...remodulate Sesors to use particle <X> and voilla - sensors 'see'/'read' again.
(I really enjoyed it when Burnham physically set up a telescope to look out a window to see if they could get a better idea of what the 'intruder object was.)
That in the end, pretty much everyone is 'like-minded' on things. I loved that the Captain and Burnham were at odds in many of the situations and BOTH SIDES had logical and good reasoning that played true to their character backgrounds in a variety of situations (IE there really wasn't the obvious 'right' choice that 'The Captain' usually makes per Berman era Star Trek. Sometimes the Captain went with Burnham's suggestion and sometimes she didn't - and I also like that Burnham did occasionally push her suggestions after being told no<-- As that was in line with her character background.
these really came across as 'real' Humans and not the Uni-mind Utopian Star Trek beings of TNG era Star Trek.
Oh, our sensors can't 'see'/'read' something...remodulate Sesors to use particle <X> and voilla - sensors 'see'/'read' again.
(I really enjoyed it when Burnham physically set up a telescope to look out a window to see if they could get a better idea of what the 'intruder object was.)
That in the end, pretty much everyone is 'like-minded' on things. I loved that the Captain and Burnham were at odds in many of the situations and BOTH SIDES had logical and good reasoning that played true to their character backgrounds in a variety of situations (IE there really wasn't the obvious 'right' choice that 'The Captain' usually makes per Berman era Star Trek. Sometimes the Captain went with Burnham's suggestion and sometimes she didn't - and I also like that Burnham did occasionally push her suggestions after being told no<-- As that was in line with her character background.
these really came across as 'real' Humans and not the Uni-mind Utopian Star Trek beings of TNG era Star Trek.
Or Goatse. Please. Be thankful that it doesn't mean that.
I am very thankful of that!
I'd have imagined that the 24 houses would have 24 different types of ships. A complete lack of uniformity since they are always in a struggle internally and it would be hard to share shipwrights.
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I don't know. Let's have a conference about this where everyone will be given the proper attention, except for Worf. We will mock and belittle his advice, though in the end he will have been right.
Sounded like it too!
I do adore that Red October dialogue switch.
I was personally amazed at the audacity of starting a premiere episode with several minutes of a fictional foreign language.
Ballsy. I'm curious how that went over with non-Trekkies (y'know, presumably the audience this show needs in order to survive?)
Now that would explain the TVMA
I've a ton of fanon and Lit canon (Iitnon?) that gets mixed up with the "canon". Mostly from reading the Blish books.
Dialogue also switches from an alien language to English in Trek, for instance when the Ferengi pirates board Enterprise NX-01 and attempt to communicate with Archer after handcuffing him to a bulkhead. They speak entirely in Ferengi (with no subtitles) from the moment they board the ship until they question Archer.
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I know one friend who stopped at "The Vulcan Hello." She didn't care for it since it just kind of cut off. Seriously. I'm sending her details on the second half of the pilot tomorrow so she can at least know what happened.
The Klingons did switch to English after starting out in Klingon a la Red October. So, why, then, did they switch back to Klingon??!
ed - Or where they just quoting pink-skins?
In fairness, that also happens in Red OctoberThe Klingons did switch to English after starting out in Klingon a la Red October. So, why, then, did they switch back to Klingon??!
I was surprised to see Klingons in that movie, myself.
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You can't tell me that The Hunt For Red October wouldn't go up a few notches if the Russians were actually speaking Klingon at the beginning.In fairness, that also happens in Red October
I was surprised to see Klingons in that movie, myself.
Maybe the Klingon speaking in the teaser was just quoting pink-skins, was my afterthought.
Did they? I thought the only English line in the opening was the lie (as the Klingon saw it) that "We come in peace." <-- Which he said in English.The Klingons did switch to English after starting out in Klingon a la Red October. So, why, then, did they switch back to Klingon??!
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"You've not experienced Tom Clancy until you have read him in the original Klingon."
Yeah, that was my afterthought. I guess that particular phrase (which just happens to be in English and not any other Federation language) is one they all know and ridicule?
It would have been clearer, if he'd said a few more words right after that in Klingon, that he was just speaking that one phrase in "human."
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