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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x01 - "The Vulcan Hello"

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Did anyone else subconsciously move their jaws while watching the Klingons talk? I'm wondering if it was just me. It just seemed so confining. The actors were trying so hard under those prosthetics. It felt like eating taffy.

I know the show is trying to build up the Klingons as this big threat, but Klingons have always been fun. You can't be fun if you can barely speak and walk around like a penguin. Believe me, I've tried.
 
Eh, I just feel it was bait and switch. Promise a free pilot, but end up only making it half a pilot, and the other half you have to subscribe.

The point is you have it backwards. Fans and potential subscribers streamed--like I did for Daredevil and Jessica--and will make up their minds based on what's to come, I think (hope). CBS viewers were like wait, am I due for a colonoscopy?
 
The Klingons spoke as if they were trying to eat targ meat while talking. Marblemouths almost every one of them. The Albino Klingon was marginally easier to hear but not by much. No wonder Albino warriors went off to become criminals. They had no social skills whatsoever.
 
The point is you have it backwards. Fans and potential subscribers streamed--like I did for Daredevil and Jessica--and will make up their minds based on what's to come, I think (hope). CBS viewers were like wait, am I due for a colonoscopy?
If the intention was not to attract subscribers with the broadcast episode, why broadcast it at all?
 
The Klingons spoke as if they were trying to eat targ meat while talking. Marblemouths almost every one of them. The Albino Klingon was marginally easier to hear but not by much. No wonder Albino warriors went off to become criminals. They had no social skills whatsoever.
Shame that Brando is dead.
 
Klingons are like that character from GoT, really. Except instead of "Hodor" they keep repeating "Honor" to no end.
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The Klingons spoke as if they were trying to eat targ meat while talking. Marblemouths almost every one of them. The Albino Klingon was marginally easier to hear but not by much. No wonder Albino warriors went off to become criminals. They had no social skills whatsoever.
Yeah, I'm not sold on the "Lets have the Klingons speak Klingon" aspect because it's clear (in addition to all the prosthetics; those actors couldn't really perform because (to get it 'right') I'm sure they were constantly thinking of the phonetics and (will it sound right to the minuscule amount of fandom that 'speaks Klingon') rather then how to make it sound dramatic and that I come across like I'm speaking it 'naturally'.

A for effort but that part gets a D from me. I would have rather had the first few words be in Klingon and sub-titled; and then have the actor 'switch' to English (like has been done for Germans in some WWI films, or even for the Russian crew in the film The Hunt For Red October.) It makes some of the Klingon stuff more of a chore to watch for me. YMMV.
 
Sloppy seconds?
Well, the plan was to broadcast it all along, before it was even filmed. The pitch was: see the first episode on broadcast TV and all the rest on CBSAA. Sounds strategic to me, as the decision was made to broadcast without even knowing whether some other show could draw greater ad revenue (unless they had even that worked out all in advance). :shrug:
 
Yeah, I'm not sold on the "Lets have the Klingons speak Klingon" aspect because it's clear (in addition to all the prosthetics; those actors couldn't really perform because (to get it 'right') I'm sure they were constantly thinking of the phonetics and (will it sound right to the minuscule amount of fandom that 'speaks Klingon') rather then how to make it sound dramatic and that I come across like I'm speaking it 'naturally'.

A for effort but that part gets a D from me. I would have rather had the first few words be in Klingon and sub-titled; and then have the actor 'switch' to English (like has been done for Germans in some WWI films, or even for the Russian crew in the film The Hunt For Red October.) It makes some of the Klingon stuff more of a chore to watch for me. YMMV.
Exactly so.

Also, my personal GOAT movie.
 
I know the show is trying to build up the Klingons as this big threat, but Klingons have always been fun. You can't be fun if you can barely speak and walk around like a penguin. Believe me, I've tried.

In some of this press, I saw a quote from one of the writers (Kristen Beyer?) that said they really wanted to be mindful of not just portraying the Klingons as the "thugs of the galaxy." But here, they felt more like exactly that then they have in a long time.

I'm expecting/hoping that will go away as we go forward.

The point is you have it backwards. Fans and potential subscribers streamed--like I did for Daredevil and Jessica--and will make up their minds based on what's to come, I think (hope). CBS viewers were like wait, am I due for a colonoscopy?

So true. The CBS math was always that there were enough serious existing Trek fans willing to pony up for this. That's where it's going to succeed or fail for CBSAA. Anyone enticed by the broadcast to sign up, that's just playing around at the margins. "The Good Fight" was the same approach with Good Wife fans.

It's not an accident the first two CBSAA shows are extensions of established brands.
 
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