Star Trek: Axanar

[BillJ]

I know how Garth pulls it off. Only look at this if you're certain you want to see Captain Garth's strategy to save the Federation in the Battle of Axanar:

Spoiler: Axanar!

^was that really necessary?

What's wrong with a bit of humor?

 

[Trekkin]

After the last day or so, I think we're about due for some.

 

[fireproof78]

so what if terry is outspoken, he is afterall entitled to his own opinions.

Seems to me people wanting to bash axanar are doing so by aiming their comments at terry, and I am sure he will continue to voice his opinions,

No surprise most of the people anti acxanar are the same people who get very defensive when nu trek is criticised.

Way I see is if or when Axanar comes out then well and good, i dont care about the nit picking some do, the wannabe directors and experts on here who all think they are george lucas.

No, I think I'm Steven Spielberg. My friend is George Lucas.

Seriously, though, what does criticizing a fan film have to do with nu Trek?

so what if terry is outspoken, he is afterall entitled to his own opinions.

Seems to me people wanting to bash axanar are doing so by aiming their comments at terry, and I am sure he will continue to voice his opinions,

No surprise most of the people anti acxanar are the same people who get very defensive when nu trek is criticised.

Way I see is if or when Axanar comes out then well and good, i dont care about the nit picking some do, the wannabe directors and experts on here who all think they are george lucas.

I'm pro-Abrams and pro-Axanar. I can't imagine a scenario where I would actively root for a Star Trek project to fail.

I like Star Trek.

"I am George Kirk and I approve this message"

Also, I am in agreement. Not sure who is wishing for Axanar to fail (at least in this thread) but I love seeing fan productions succeed, regardless if they are Star Trek or not.

The BTS drama is probably some of the most entertaining stuff I've read today.

 

[Amaris]

^was that really necessary?

Yes.

I know how Garth pulls it off. Only look at this if you're certain you want to see Captain Garth's strategy to save the Federation in the Battle of Axanar:

Spoiler: Axanar!

My favorite part during that scene is Dan Aykroyd's translation of the story: "...that they had put aside... for rrrroasting."

After the last day or so, I think we're about due for some.

Indeed.

 

[BigJake]

I thought it was funny.

 

[TerryMcIntosh]

I know how Garth pulls it off. Only look at this if you're certain you want to see Captain Garth's strategy to save the Federation in the Battle of Axanar:

Spoiler: Axanar!

Curses... this caused me to put that movie on and am watching it now! =P

 

[Amaris]

I thought it was funny.

I know how Garth pulls it off. Only look at this if you're certain you want to see Captain Garth's strategy to save the Federation in the Battle of Axanar:

Spoiler: Axanar!

Curses... this caused me to put that movie on and am watching it now! =P

It's impossible not to want to watch it when that happens.

 

[Jedi_Master]

My suggestion for you going forward TerryMc is that if anyone asks you to comment on what Person X is saying about Axanar and there is not some factual answer to provide, that you simply say "I can't comment about Internet Rumors". Anything beyond that will push the invisible outrage button and really isn't all that important anyway. We don't need to know you are going to have beer with an-ex coworker, and we don't need to know the result of that conversation. That's private business and expounding on the shifting relationships between co-workers and former co-workers really leads nowhere.

Thanks for your comments and observations. I reject them at face value and will share what I choose to share. If you're offended, for example, then the exit is clearly marked... for the both of us, actually.

Such a special snowflake....

 

[Jedman67]

Terry, i'd be interested in hearing some of the design thought process of 'exactly recreating' the desilu corridor sets. As the Aries is not a constitution class ship, some design planning to make it look a little different than the standard TOS decks could be useful.

Would love to see some newer shots of the bridge too.

--snip--

Thanks for that info; and no i didn't see the concept art.

Keep the coolness rolling!

have you seen some of the Axanar concept art for corridors, etc?

http://www.startrekaxanar.com/wp-content/uploads/photo-gallery/Corridor-2.jpg

http://www.startrekaxanar.com/wp-content/uploads/photo-gallery/Corridor-1.jpg

Spoiler: Axanar!

This is before my time

 

[Richard Baker]

have you seen some of the Axanar concept art for corridors, etc?

http://www.startrekaxanar.com/wp-content/uploads/photo-gallery/Corridor-2.jpg

http://www.startrekaxanar.com/wp-content/uploads/photo-gallery/Corridor-1.jpg

Interesting- it looks like there are heavy blast doors in addition to the 'normal' room doors in each door frame.

I am looking forward to this film. Personally I do not care a flying fuck who said what about whom and where that last nickel went. A lot of films have shit going on behind the scenes- most of it completely unknown until the Internet. I am following this thread so I can learn about Axanar and the final product is what is important to me. Is it going to be a good film?- it looks very promising so far. The Prelude showed us what they could do with SFX and the interview format served that well. I do hope the actual film will be well written and portrayed, as I do every project be it from a fan's basement or Hollywood. Axanar is one of the most ambitious projects I have seen in a long time and I like what I have seen so far.

Regardless of the drama behind the scenes, the final product is all that matters to me- not who said what or what somebody's opinion about that is, not the financial forensics, just what the result is.

 

[Harvey]

I noticed that the Indiegogo goal was raised to $250,000 sometime over the weekend (it had been set at $100,000) and the stretch goal graphic was updated to indicate $250,000 was the "basic goal to keep the lights on." Previously, the only stretch goal indicated was $330,000, covering the first episode.

My questions for Axanar would be: Why raise the Indiegogo goal at all, since you're well past the $250,000 mark (and have been for a while)? If the total goal for episode one is still $330,000, does that mean you'll be able to film it for $80,000, or is the $250,000 figure actually amortized in your full budget over the course of four episodes? If it isn't, why are the other three episodes so much more expensive?

 

[northstar]

I noticed that the Indiegogo goal was raised to $250,000 sometime over the weekend (it had been set at $100,000) and the stretch goal graphic was updated to indicate $250,000 was the "basic goal to keep the lights on." Previously, the only stretch goal indicated was $330,000, covering the first episode.

My questions for Axanar would be: Why raise the Indiegogo goal at all, since you're well past the $250,000 mark (and have been for a while)? If the total goal for episode one is still $330,000, does that mean you'll be able to film it for $80,000, or is the $250,000 figure actually amortized in your full budget over the course of four episodes? If it isn't, why are the other three episodes so much more expensive?

You are mistaken. The goal was 250K from the start, with the first stretch at 330. Nothing has changed.

 

[TerryMcIntosh]

I noticed that the Indiegogo goal was raised to $250,000 sometime over the weekend (it had been set at $100,000) and the stretch goal graphic was updated to indicate $250,000 was the "basic goal to keep the lights on." Previously, the only stretch goal indicated was $330,000, covering the first episode.

My questions for Axanar would be: Why raise the Indiegogo goal at all, since you're well past the $250,000 mark (and have been for a while)? If the total goal for episode one is still $330,000, does that mean you'll be able to film it for $80,000, or is the $250,000 figure actually amortized in your full budget over the course of four episodes? If it isn't, why are the other three episodes so much more expensive?

As with Kickstarter, the $250,000 basic goal is the point where you get the money as an organizer, not that it's necessarily the amount that you're wanting or needing to do what you're advertising that you're going to do. With Kickstarter, if you don't meet your base goal then you don't get any money at the end -- a failed fundraiser. With Indiegogo, if you don't meet your base goal then you still get the money, but their fees are significantly higher.

In each of our three fundraisers -- the Prelude to Axanar Kickstarter, the first feature Kickstarter, and the current Indiegogo -- we've purposefully set the base goal very low, so that we're sure to meet it and we're sure to qualify to receive the funds. Some folks have a misconception that you're required to make that fundraising base goal the amount that you need, but that's not the case, and the crowd sourced funding landscape is littered with people that set their actual budget as their base goal and went down in flames when the fundraiser ended, so we haven't/aren't making that mistake. =)

My suggestion for you going forward TerryMc is that if anyone asks you to comment on what Person X is saying about Axanar and there is not some factual answer to provide, that you simply say "I can't comment about Internet Rumors". Anything beyond that will push the invisible outrage button and really isn't all that important anyway. We don't need to know you are going to have beer with an-ex coworker, and we don't need to know the result of that conversation. That's private business and expounding on the shifting relationships between co-workers and former co-workers really leads nowhere.

Thanks for your comments and observations. I reject them at face value and will share what I choose to share. If you're offended, for example, then the exit is clearly marked... for the both of us, actually.

Such a special snowflake....

If you're not mature enough to be able to handle a rejection then perhaps consider keeping your unsolicited suggestion to yourself next time? It's worth considering. *shrug* =P

 

[Jedi_Master]

Terry - you do realize that this is a discussion board? I would like to think that I have been more than fair in my comments and suggestions, so if you disagree, that's fine but I have noticed that your tone has become more and more testy as time as gone on...

 

[Karzak]

Who said that Axanar was going to take the high road?

I'm ready to call out bullshit wherever it is, both as a private person and as a member of the Axanar team. Don't assume anything, or that you know me or my intent, unless you've asked and it's been answered, sir. Karzak does enough of that here already and he's most often wrong.

You're clearly adding in your own nutty butthurt and spinning my words and the intent behind them to suit your agenda. This specific, final sentence was originally going to be something incredibly unkind, but I walked it off and will just wish you the best instead. We're oil and water it would seem and we're not going to agree, so I'm choosing to agree to disagree without getting nasty.

Don't push me though...

You're a spectator. I'll share what I share and you can either take it or leave it, but I won't be justifying my words or opinions to you, sorry.

No, it's not, for obvious reasons. =P The PR team isn't likely to notice what happens here, but I am choosing to. Like I've said, I'm not participating to please anyone, but I will offer the truth.

And, remember folks, I'm not here to please anyone. I'm here to tell the truth and do so freely. Some folks can't handle that though and that's fine, too. In the end I really don't care, because it's not important. =P

if someone's a dick then they can pretty much get bent. I'm not paid to deal with butthurt -- well, I'm not paid at all in the case of Axanar, so let that be an indicator to how disinterested I am in dealing with such things.

If you're not mature enough to be able to handle a rejection then perhaps consider keeping your unsolicited suggestion to yourself next time? It's worth considering. *shrug* =P

Perhaps a moderator would be so kind as to educate Terry on the particulars of the general decorum we are expected to all abide on this forum? =p

 

[137th Gebirg]

Oh, dear. And the Axanar thread gets derailed and careened off into a deep dark chasm, bursting into flames once again.

 

[BillJ]

No, it's not, for obvious reasons. =P The PR team isn't likely to notice what happens here, but I am choosing to. Like I've said, I'm not participating to please anyone, but I will offer the truth. Perhaps there's been a bit too much truth? That's in the eye of the beholder, I suppose, and there will come a time soon when I'm too busy to participate, so be sure to ask questions while there's someone here to give the answers. =)

The thing is, we're all potential investors/donors and we all have other online outlets where things like this are discussed.

I know the goal is to turn Ares Studios into a fully functioning production company, but you'll chase real investors away with some of the stuff I've seen online in relation to Axanar.

They won't be interested in your "truth", they'll be interested in if you guys can deliver on time and on budget (it is pretty much the same in every business).

As a test run for a real business, you guys have handled the negative aspects that come with it really poorly.

All in my opinion, your mileage may vary.

 

[gazomg]

Terry - you do realize that this is a discussion board? I would like to think that I have been more than fair in my comments and suggestions, so if you disagree, that's fine but I have noticed that your tone has become more and more testy as time as gone on...

You are absolutely correct, on a discussion board people should not be upset when things are discussed, even if you yourself have already stated in this thread you have zero interest in axanar or any interest in the movie in the first place

 

[Karzak]

No, it's not, for obvious reasons. =P The PR team isn't likely to notice what happens here, but I am choosing to. Like I've said, I'm not participating to please anyone, but I will offer the truth. Perhaps there's been a bit too much truth? That's in the eye of the beholder, I suppose, and there will come a time soon when I'm too busy to participate, so be sure to ask questions while there's someone here to give the answers. =)

The thing is, we're all potential investors/donors and we all have other online outlets where things like this are discussed.

I know the goal is to turn Ares Studios into a fully functioning production company, but you'll chase real investors away with some of the stuff I've seen online in relation to Axanar.

They won't be interested in your "truth", they'll be interested in if you guys can deliver on time and on budget (it is pretty much the same in every business).

As a test run for a real business, you guys have handled the negative aspects that come with it really poorly.

All in my opinion, your mileage may vary.

+1

 

[Harvey]

I noticed that the Indiegogo goal was raised to $250,000 sometime over the weekend (it had been set at $100,000) and the stretch goal graphic was updated to indicate $250,000 was the "basic goal to keep the lights on." Previously, the only stretch goal indicated was $330,000, covering the first episode.

My questions for Axanar would be: Why raise the Indiegogo goal at all, since you're well past the $250,000 mark (and have been for a while)? If the total goal for episode one is still $330,000, does that mean you'll be able to film it for $80,000, or is the $250,000 figure actually amortized in your full budget over the course of four episodes? If it isn't, why are the other three episodes so much more expensive?

You are mistaken. The goal was 250K from the start, with the first stretch at 330. Nothing has changed.

Oops! You're quite right. I just checked via the Way Back Machine and my memory wasn't accurate.

My apologies, Terry.