So name a Star Trek moment that you just didn't "get".
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Sometimes a tunnel is just a tunnel. Not this time.
What if you're smoking a cigar while entering a tunnel, next to a girl eating a banana?
What explanation do you need? He pulled her up, they got married, and then they made love on a train on their honeymoon.
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-4Nwght0[/yt]
She was hanging over a cliff, ha was barely able to hold on to her the bad guy had just stepped on the fingers of his other hand and the others were like half a kilometer away. Yeah, no explanation necessary, alright...:rolleye
Still was better explained than 95% of Generations.
Gunian why are you here in the Nexus when you're in real life too?
I'm not really here. I'm just an echo from the past.
Oh. Ok.
Well, it wasn't like TVH. Getting back was not important to the story, except as a "then we all went home" ending.
What explanation do you need? He pulled her up, they got married, and then they made love on a train on their honeymoon.
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-4Nwght0[/yt]
She was hanging over a cliff, ha was barely able to hold on to her the bad guy had just stepped on the fingers of his other hand and the others were like half a kilometer away. Yeah, no explanation necessary, alright...:rolleye
Still was better explained than 95% of Generations.
Gunian why are you here in the Nexus when you're in real life too?
I'm not really here. I'm just an echo from the past.
Oh. Ok.
Didn't you hear Harry's composition? "Echos of the void"?
Why do we never see or hear of Deltans after Star Trek II anyway?!?
I mean ilia was Deltan and (according to the novel) one of the regula 1 scientists was a Deltan but after that........
NOTHING!!!! If anything Deltans are replaced by Betazeds in TNG.
Was their race wiped out by a plague or something?
btw while we're on the subject Sulu got a little two left hands around Ilia when he was supposed to assist her in her duties but he...well, royally blew it is the nicest words I can use.
Decker took the conn. He was shaken by Ilia’s presence. In the end it had come down to a choice of her or Starfleet and a starship command. He had chosen the starship; now he had lost that, too. He turned away abruptly. “Mr. Sulu, take Lieutenant Ilia in hand.” Sulu’s eyes popped. “Sir?!” Then he understood. “Yes, of course.” Sulu was puzzled by the strange feeling which had plagued him ever since the Deltan woman stepped onto the bridge. He turned to Ilia, wishing he had been given time for a cold shower first. “Your pre-programming is already set in, Lieutenant.” Sulu felt it hardly prudent to stand up at this moment. But unlike Kirk, he had no choice and therefore tried to seem to be bowing to her as he rose—and then tripped and then decided to pretend he was actually offering Ilia his hand. Then he immediately thought better of this, withdrew his hand abruptly, and quickly employed it in very busily punching out equations on her navigator’s console. “It’s all in the computer,” he mumbled. “You’ll have no problems.*.*.*.”
She won’t, but you will, Mr. Sulu, thought Decker. But fortunately for all of them, the effect would lessen considerably as Ilia became accustomed to these surroundings. Her secreting pheromones now was merely an automatic reaction to the presence of unfamiliar males. Sulu was acting about the same way that Decker had reacted when he first encountered Ilia.
At this juncture, Sulu hit a wrong switch, triggering a beep which sounded at him accusingly while he fumbled to shut it off.
Ilia smiled sympathetically. “I’m sworn to celibacy, Mr. Sulu. That makes me as safe as any human female.”
That, thought Decker, was polite Starfleet fiction. The oath made her presence tolerable, but never entirely safe. But he owed it to her to apologize for what Kirk had said earlier. “I know the captain meant no personal insult,” he said to her.
Ilia kept her eyes on the console. “I would never take advantage of a sexually immature species,” she replied. Then she looked up at Decker. “You can assure him that’s true, can’t you?”
I mean ilia was Deltan and (according to the novel) one of the regula 1 scientists was a Deltan but after that........
NOTHING!!!! If anything Deltans are replaced by Betazeds in TNG.
Was their race wiped out by a plague or something?
btw while we're on the subject Sulu got a little two left hands around Ilia when he was supposed to assist her in her duties but he...well, royally blew it is the nicest words I can use.
Decker took the conn. He was shaken by Ilia’s presence. In the end it had come down to a choice of her or Starfleet and a starship command. He had chosen the starship; now he had lost that, too. He turned away abruptly. “Mr. Sulu, take Lieutenant Ilia in hand.” Sulu’s eyes popped. “Sir?!” Then he understood. “Yes, of course.” Sulu was puzzled by the strange feeling which had plagued him ever since the Deltan woman stepped onto the bridge. He turned to Ilia, wishing he had been given time for a cold shower first. “Your pre-programming is already set in, Lieutenant.” Sulu felt it hardly prudent to stand up at this moment. But unlike Kirk, he had no choice and therefore tried to seem to be bowing to her as he rose—and then tripped and then decided to pretend he was actually offering Ilia his hand. Then he immediately thought better of this, withdrew his hand abruptly, and quickly employed it in very busily punching out equations on her navigator’s console. “It’s all in the computer,” he mumbled. “You’ll have no problems.*.*.*.”
She won’t, but you will, Mr. Sulu, thought Decker. But fortunately for all of them, the effect would lessen considerably as Ilia became accustomed to these surroundings. Her secreting pheromones now was merely an automatic reaction to the presence of unfamiliar males. Sulu was acting about the same way that Decker had reacted when he first encountered Ilia.
At this juncture, Sulu hit a wrong switch, triggering a beep which sounded at him accusingly while he fumbled to shut it off.
Ilia smiled sympathetically. “I’m sworn to celibacy, Mr. Sulu. That makes me as safe as any human female.”
That, thought Decker, was polite Starfleet fiction. The oath made her presence tolerable, but never entirely safe. But he owed it to her to apologize for what Kirk had said earlier. “I know the captain meant no personal insult,” he said to her.
Ilia kept her eyes on the console. “I would never take advantage of a sexually immature species,” she replied. Then she looked up at Decker. “You can assure him that’s true, can’t you?”
Deltans occasionally pop up in 24th century novels and were mentioned in Enterprise.
I think Paramount was eager to distance themselves from as many things as they realistically could that were associated with TMP, including Gene Roddenberry himself. Hence, Deltans were tossed on the scrapheap of big time over budget films that failed to live to expectations
It could have been an attempt to avoid overt sexuality. Falling in love and having children out of wedlock is fine, but having an entire race of people who could make you orgasm by just walking into a room might have been a bit too much.
It was an interesting concept but never really used- except for the Chekov pain relief scene (which was not really necessary) it could have been shelved with no impact on the story or characters.
I mean, they can't have ALL taken oaths of celibacy.
Maybe they did and that's why there aren't any Deltans in the 24th century
Plus, STAR TREK is basically a PG-rated franchise, which makes dealing with a "sexually advanced" species somewhat problematic.
I mean, they can't have ALL taken oaths of celibacy.
Regardless if they all did or not do they announce it as being "On record" the first time they walk into a new job?
I mean, they can't have ALL taken oaths of celibacy.
Maybe they did and that's why there aren't any Deltans in the 24th century
You know you're could be right!!!! Maybe they all took the oath and just assumed there were others who didn't. Kind of like "I thought you were going to get the milk....No I thought YOU were going to do it" kind of thing.
Man that's messed up. A whole species wiped out because they all took vows to not have sex....They really should have coordinated the whole celibacy thing better.
Regardless if they all did or not do they announce it as being "On record" the first time they walk into a new job?I mean, they can't have ALL taken oaths of celibacy.
Yes, does Starfleet have an "oath of celibacy" box to tick on their entrance forms?
(That was Travis's mistake
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I mean, they can't have ALL taken oaths of celibacy.
Well, my take is the the oath is more of a strictly work-related precaution. when Deltans are serving aboard ship they don't want tospend all their off-time holding "open-quarters" services for the rest of the crew. (plus having had sex with a Deltan might have made certain crew members unneccessarily clingy or possessive which would have brought a whole other bunch of Tribbles into the mix.
That said, i'm sure that once a Deltan officer was on leave at home with the rest of his/her people then they could procreate as much as they liked.
Maybe because the Romulans were constantly looking for an edge to use against the Federation and they really didn't need the help?
The Cardassians were belligerent to the point of going up to Starfleet and playing the "I'm not touching you" game some times, and would take a mile if an inch were given. At least with the Romulans, you knew were you stood.
The Cardassians were belligerent to the point of going up to Starfleet and playing the "I'm not touching you" game some times, and would take a mile if an inch were given. At least with the Romulans, you knew were you stood.
A little cheat here, but I don't get moments where on any show they are looking at a computer screen of the boundary to space of another species, like for example Romulans and say that's it and they can't cross it.
Ahhhhh ... space is three dimentional. We are only seeign a flat surface image. It doesn't sbow you the boundaries completely, which could be totally different from different angles than that flat image. Can you go over it? Under it?
Apparently Khan isn't the only one who wasn't thinking three dimentionally.
Ahhhhh ... space is three dimentional. We are only seeign a flat surface image. It doesn't sbow you the boundaries completely, which could be totally different from different angles than that flat image. Can you go over it? Under it?
Apparently Khan isn't the only one who wasn't thinking three dimentionally.
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