News Season 2 will be the last (show cancelled)

[Noname Given]

No one's been alienated except for a vocal minority who use YouTube to rile up the fanbase.

Roddenberry was lashing out because Paramount removed him from authority over the movie after TMP. Meyer could have done thoughtful and introspective movies about a Starfleet which really was some sort of futuristic NASA and not at all militaristic and Roddenberry would still have insisted that's not what Star Trek is supposed to be.

Actually, GR was lashing out because in 1969 he sold the STAR TREK IP rights to Paramount and didn't get a dime from the successful marketing and merchandising Paramount did with TOS in syndication.

Plus when GR started Lincoln Enterprises to sell some Star Trek memorabilia and Trek related merchandise, Paramount sued him and eventually settled where he paid some royalties and licensing fees to continue.

GR really tried hard to make and get TNG to completely replace TOS in the minds of Star Trek fans (,because Paramount gave him full control of TNG and a large slice from the merchandising of TNG), but he wasn't as successful in that regard as he hoped he would be because he still got no money from Paramount merchandising of TOS.

 

[Steve Roby]

Actually, GR was lashing out because in 1969 he sold the STAR TREK IP rights to Paramount and didn't get a dime from the successful marketing and merchandising Paramount did with TOS in syndication.

In 1969, when the show was cancelled, who would have imagined there would be any dimes generated by Star Trek? He made what seemed like a sensible decision at the time. And it's not like he lived a life of poverty and deprivation afterwards.

Plus when GR started Lincoln Enterprises to sell some Star Trek memorabilia and Trek related merchandise, Paramount sued him and eventually settled where he paid some royalties and licensing fees to continue.

I seem to recall that there was some debate about whether Lincoln had the right to sell some of what they were selling, like scripts written by people other than Roddenberry, among other concerns.

 

[Noname Given]

...I seem to recall that there was some debate about whether Lincoln had the right to sell some of what they were selling, like scripts written by people other than Roddenberry, among other concerns...

Well, like I said, Paramount didn't "win"; both sides settled and Lincoln Enterprises went on - but GR still felt screwed over.

 

[Steve Roby]

My dim memory in the case of the scripts was that certain writers were pissed off and felt screwed over by Roddenberry.

 

[rosendust1212]

Ugh. At least there will be more Starfleet Academy novels, perhaps?

 

[Firebird]

My dim memory in the case of the scripts was that certain writers were pissed off and felt screwed over by Roddenberry.

That would track with why scripts got very scarce on the public market after the TNG and DS9 script compendium releases.

Probably also the WGAw interceded, too.

 

[The Wormhole]

Ugh. At least there will be more Starfleet Academy novels, perhaps?

"More?" There hasn't been a Starfleet Academy novel yet, not one which ties in with this show anyway. And as of writing this post, the only Star Trek novels scheduled for the remainder of 2026 are a TOS novel and a DS9 one. No novels are currently scheduled for 2027 besides a paperback reprint of a Picard novel released as a hardcover earlier this year.

 

[Firebird]

If we get any more novels based on the Kurtzman-era shows, I suspect we won't start seeing them until after SNW and SFA complete their runs. A neo-Relaunch era, if you will.

 

[rosendust1212]

"More?" There hasn't been a Starfleet Academy novel yet, not one which ties in with this show anyway. And as of writing this post, the only Star Trek novels scheduled for the remainder of 2026 are a TOS novel and a DS9 one. No novels are currently scheduled for 2027 besides a paperback reprint of a Picard novel released as a hardcover earlier this year.

I see. I know about the DS9 one because I'm going to be pre-ordering it

 

[F. King Daniel]

Ugh. At least there will be more Starfleet Academy novels, perhaps?

Best they can do is a comic book

 

[BillJ]

"More?" There hasn't been a Starfleet Academy novel yet, not one which ties in with this show anyway. And as of writing this post, the only Star Trek novels scheduled for the remainder of 2026 are a TOS novel and a DS9 one. No novels are currently scheduled for 2027 besides a paperback reprint of a Picard novel released as a hardcover earlier this year.

Just wow. I still remember getting two books a month in the 90’s.

 

[The Wormhole]

Just wow. I still remember getting two books a month in the 90’s.

Those days are well in the past. In recent years we've been averaging three novels a year.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Actually, GR was lashing out because in 1969 he sold the STAR TREK IP rights to Paramount and didn't get a dime from the successful marketing and merchandising Paramount did with TOS in syndication.

Plus when GR started Lincoln Enterprises to sell some Star Trek memorabilia and Trek related merchandise, Paramount sued him and eventually settled where he paid some royalties and licensing fees to continue.

GR really tried hard to make and get TNG to completely replace TOS in the minds of Star Trek fans (,because Paramount gave him full control of TNG and a large slice from the merchandising of TNG), but he wasn't as successful in that regard as he hoped he would be because he still got no money from Paramount merchandising of TOS.

In 1969, when the show was cancelled, who would have imagined there would be any dimes generated by Star Trek? He made what seemed like a sensible decision at the time. And it's not like he lived a life of poverty and deprivation afterwards.



I seem to recall that there was some debate about whether Lincoln had the right to sell some of what they were selling, like scripts written by people other than Roddenberry, among other concerns.

No. Roddenberry never sold the IP rights to Trek in 1969 because he never owned it. He pitched star trek in 64 and since he was a work for hire he didnt own the IP. He did get profit sharing in his contract of 25 plus percent but paramount avoided paying him anything for years claiming the show and early movies made no profit by using creative accounting. Paramount treated him pretty badly which is why gene battled them so much. Gene barely made any money for years off of trek except for the theme music and maybe a bit off of Lincoln Enterprises. Alexander Courage made way more money than Gene for all the music he did for the show even in the early years. Gene purposefully wrote crappy lyrics for the theme early in so he could get 50% of the theme profits everytime an episode was aired. It was written into Alexander Courage contract that Gene could do that. Courage had forgotten it was and was mad at Gene for years after when star trek got popular in the 70s and gene got some money for the theme music in reruns. But Courage still made millions off star trek in the 70s with all the music he did when Gene was relatively poor because just the theme music money wasn't as much as money for scoring entire episodes. Gene put the theme music into the contracts because he knew he wouldnt make any money off the show in reruns because he didnt own the rights right at the beginning. So the theme music money kept him afloat in the 70s. It wasnt a huge amount of money. He truly only started to make the massive millions when he created TNG. He had more power at the time and now his family still gets residual. I always found it crazy that Courage made way more money in the 1960s and 70s off of trek than Gene did. But in the 60s creators were work for hire and just worked for paychecks.

 

[SpockOfNine]

Just wow. I still remember getting two books a month in the 90’s.

There does seem to be a trend where fewer and fewer books are being printed. Star Wars will only print 6 books this year. You have to go back to 2013 to find a year when they printed that few!

 

[Outcast_Q]

There does seem to be a trend where fewer and fewer books are being printed. Star Wars will only print 6 books this year. You have to go back to 2013 to find a year when they printed that few!

Since neither Fahrenheit 451 adaptation managed to depict a Mechanical Hound, I'm looking forward to seeing what Silicon Valley does with it.