I didn't make it through season two. Once they started going down that road, I simply knew that I didn't want any part of it.
I didn't make it through season two. Once they started going down that road, I simply knew that I didn't want any part of it.
Unfortunately I stuck with it and I wish I hadn't. Abuse isn't science fiction "character growth," in real life it hurts ... for real.
No kidding. Kirk already had that, so did Spock, so did Chapel, so did McCoy this is not new to Star Trek.
Trauma doesn't magically go away just because space travel was invented. What an absurd thing to laugh about.
Or entertaining in any sense. Troi's chocolate premises mean nothing to me. When she almost became Data's dinner snack at least that offered a bit of temporary drama.
Don't get me started on TNG's wimpy Enterprise doorbells either. TOS-style sound-effects were clearly too controversial or unsettling to duplicate.
Indeed. I filed a restraining order against those sounds for that very reason.
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Bullshit double standards are at the very core of 99% of these neverending, circular arguments.
Not a weak premise at all. This show didn't do well. Theres a reason for that. Its the way they go about telling a story. They are heavy handed in everything they do. To the romances and the trauma. It permeates the entire season. It leaves little for an actual sci fi adventure.
Let's give an example what I mean. Let's say someone burns a frozen dinner in a microwave. The smokes permeates the entire enclosure. It sucks that the meal is burnt and that's there is smoke in the microwave. After a few minutes with the door open the smoke clears and maybe you'll put a new frozen meal in there and start the microwave up or maybe wait until later to use the microwave on something else. Regardless everything is cleared out and ready to go. Now in a badly designed microwave the smoke hangs around a long time and takes forever to clear. Maybe the filters are clogged and it also leaves a strong smell.
Shows like TOS and most Berman era shows are like the first microwave. Things like trauma and romances don't linger around for so many episodes and time that it leaves little room for adventure. Shows like SFA get so heavy handed that the smoke never clears or takes forever to clear and we get little in true sci fi adventuring. I feel all I get is the smoke, the burnt meal throughout the whole season. All the live kurtzman shows seem to have this issue even the more episidic SNW.
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The lack of self-awareness is astounding.
Gibberish.
Instead of this gibberish bullshit, I shall point you to episodes like "Family" and "Emissary," both of which revolve around and are heavily based on the main character's fundamental and life-altering trauma.
All generations of Star Trek have used heavy trauma to tell their stories, no matter how much you try to apply your nonsensical double standards.
Which is closer to real life. People don't just get over trauma and past Star Trek showed that too. James T. Kirk would be the first example.
On the other hand, I read Marvel comics for a good 40+ years, but I first came in about twenty years in — and aside from looking up the occasional classic run, I never really felt the need to go back and read the entirety of Marvel up to that time.
EDIT: I see there’s been a continuing debate thread about Caleb over on SFA dealing with his obvious trauma, and objections to this.
At the end of one season of 24, where Jack Bauer has just spent the entire day tracing and smacking down bifurcating terrorist plots (as one does), Jack breaks down and starts sobbing, alone in his car. Certain individuals online objected at the time, asking why he was so weak (though that wasn’t the word they used).
I expect the same logic applies here.
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Yeah, no. Maybe it hasn't expanded the fan base, but the fan base sure as shit hasn't shrunk because of this show. Not at all.
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Don't you mean hasn't?
That I do, I'll be making the correction shortly.
