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This is why the Borg time travelling into the past makes no point in the first place. Humanity is already no meaningful threat to them; if they were going to time travel at all, you'd think they might time travel into the future to get a sense of whether humanity will become a genuine threat to them.
 
This is why the Borg time travelling into the past makes no point in the first place. Humanity is already no meaningful threat to them; if they were going to time travel at all, you'd think they might time travel into the future to get a sense of whether humanity will become a genuine threat to them.
Can you "slingshot" to the future? I know they do return trips to the "present".
 
I just don't think it works like that. Because it's nothing to do with his performance, it's he would be of the same rank as his superior officer. And while you can be commanded by someone of the same rank for a mission, I don't think it'd work in a command hierarchy. He can be a commander if he becomes first officer or commands a starbase ala Sisko.

It's not unusual for a real-life CO, XO, and sometimes one or more department heads to be the same rank. For example:

Navy
Carrier — CO, XO, often CHENG, and sometimes GATOR (navigator): O-6
Carrier Air Wing — CAG, DCAG: O-6
Destroyer Squadron — COM, DCOM: O-6
Submarine Squadron — COM, DCOM: O-6
Destroyer — CO, XO: O-5
Aviation Squadron — CO, XO: O-5

Army
Brigade — CO, DCO: O-6

Air Force
Air Wing — CO, DCO: O-6
 
Illogical circumstances, in a time travel story? Say it isn't so!

What makes you think that the Borg even could go back to that point in time, that far back? IIRC, the only instance when any species in Star Trek has gone back that far is when Q took Picard back in "All Good Things...". Q is godlike. Are the Borg godlike? Are the Borg to exist without limitation? Are we to suppose that the Borg's journey back in time was something that they could perform without risk to themselves? If that were the case, why wait to do it as an apparent last resort, when the cube was being destroyed?

Also, there's no way that the Borg could have been smarter than any group of 20th-century writers, no matter how inspired they could have gotten. I'm afraid we're just going to have to settle for living in reality regarding that.
There's no indication that the Borg are limited in how far back they can travel through time, therefore there's nothing to indicate that they could not have gone back that far. Assuming they were somehow limited, even going back a hundred years earlier would have been far more sensible than going back to stop the formation of the Federation by targeting first contact. It's a stupid premise in a stupid movie, regardless of how much you want to rationalize it.
But then there’s no distinctiveness for the Borg to add to their own. They don’t destroy just for the sake of destroying, and until the apparent destruction of the (final?) Queen in PIC, there was no significant chance of humanity seriously threatening the Collective as a whole, as opposed to the occasional fingernail/Cube — indeed, I’m surprised that PIC seems to have treated “Endgame” as a galaxywide takedown event for them.
Granted, they started doing that after TBoBW and Voyager retconned their goals as seen in "Q Who?." However, they were clearly beyond caring about adding humanity's distinctiveness if they were intent on stopping first contact. How distinct would humans have been without the advancement of three more centuries and interaction with other species? This brings up another hole in this movie's plot: the Borg could have just as easily targeted Vulcan in the past or could have stayed where they were in the Delta Quadrant, traveled to the past first, and then traveled to Earth. The entire battle was just an empty excuse for action. It's a fun sequence, but that's about it.
 
Thanks to First Contact and the Orb of Time, the Federation can now time travel effectively at will. Just like everyone can live forever. But of course, they're unlikely to use this vast technology...
 
There's no indication that the Borg are limited in how far back they can travel through time, therefore there's nothing to indicate that they could not have gone back that far. Assuming they were somehow limited, even going back a hundred years earlier would have been far more sensible than going back to stop the formation of the Federation by targeting first contact. It's a stupid premise in a stupid movie, regardless of how much you want to rationalize it.

If the whole story is a predestination paradox, then the Borg could not have done otherwise, since therefore they were an integral part of First Contact between humanity and the Vulcans. That's the very definition of a predestination paradox. If that's stupid, then so is every other time travel story employing that device, from Bill and Ted, to Back to the Future, from The City on the Edge of Forever to The Terminator.

The film is called First Contact, not An Alternate History Version of First Contact. So, the film invites the interpretation that First Contact always involved a predestination paradox.
 
If the whole story is a predestination paradox, then the Borg could not have done otherwise, since therefore they were an integral part of First Contact between humanity and the Vulcans.

In the context of Enterprise, the details of the paradox make sense. The Borg intentionally travel back in time to when the Borg in "Regeneration" crashed on Earth, accidentally becoming those Borg in the process.

That it happens to be the most important day in the Federation's history is a cosmic irony.
 
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Can you "slingshot" to the future? I know they do return trips to the "present".

Yes. Think about it. When in the past the ship must slingshot into the future to return home. The fact that home is considered the present is irrelevant.

From "Tomorrow is Yesterday"

SCOTT: Oh, we'll do that all right, Captain. We'll not be getting so close that my engines couldn't pull us out. What I am worried about, sir, that we may not have much control when we're thrown forward again.
KIRK: Helm control
SCOTT: Braking control, sir. If I can't stop us soon enough, we may overshoot our time, and if I stop the engines suddenly the strain may tear us apart. Anyway we do it, it's a mighty rough ride
KIRK: Well, gentlemen, we all have to take a chance. Especially if one is all you have. Assume your stations
 
in the 80s and 90s was probably the best time between men and women, somhow in "balance" between the chauvinist paternalism shown in the 60s show and the grotesque "woke" deconstruction of the sexes we see nowadays

I'm with you. The Trek of the 90's always seemed to be celebrating equality among people of both sexes, all races, and even levels of ability. Some Kurtzman shows felt more like an apology than a celebration.
 
I'm with you. The Trek of the 90's always seemed to be celebrating equality among people of both sexes, all races, and even levels of ability. Some Kurtzman shows felt more like an apology than a celebration.
That's more the era in which they're produced were everyone needs an apology for something.

Trek in the 90s could be equal, and could also be stupid. Other shows made it feel more organic.
 
There has been so much research coming out about the benefits of the sun for health beyond vitamin D.

Now, characters in space aren't exposed to natural sunlight. They're basically in a shielded office. What are the mental and physical health issues related to this long term? Why has nothing about this ever come up?

We get the storyline about folks afraid of using the transport, but we never get anything about the impact of the lack of natural sunlight on characters once they're in space long term.
 
Why has nothing about this ever come up?
Because people don't want health problems on Earth going to space. That's why you get space sickness; it's like regular as sickness but in space!

Ben Nova did an interesting thing with Vitamin C in a book though on a Mars mission.
 
There has been so much research coming out about the benefits of the sun for health beyond vitamin D.

Now, characters in space aren't exposed to natural sunlight. They're basically in a shielded office. What are the mental and physical health issues related to this long term? Why has nothing about this ever come up?

We get the storyline about folks afraid of using the transport, but we never get anything about the impact of the lack of natural sunlight on characters once they're in space long term.

If you get some exposure to UVB (ultraviolet) light your skin will be able to produce vitamin D. Could be added to on-board lighting or put into the equivalent of tanning booths.
 
If you get some exposure to UVB (ultraviolet) light your skin will be able to produce vitamin D. Could be added to on-board lighting or put into the equivalent of tanning booths.
Hospitals are currently trying to figure out what's so special about natural sunlight. This research got super charged with COVID as they found that rolling patients outside and exposing them to natural sunlight made them get better faster. They're still trying to figure out why because it was something more than vitamin D.

I can definitely see a suspense/horror story about crew members having issues and the Enterprise discovering them. Think Naked Now but scary.
 
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