Raffi's poverty

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by GMDreia, Jun 21, 2021.

  1. The Wormhole

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    That's kind of problematic though. Sisko said he used up his transporter credits in his first month at the Academy because he was frequently beaming back to New Orleans for dinner, yet Nog kept it up enough that he was on a first name basis with Joe Sisko and his staff, but apparently did not expend his transporter credits.
     
  2. Nerys Myk

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    Nog has the lobes for business, he probably doubled his credits on the first day there. ;)
     
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  3. Tuskin38

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    Maybe the credit limit was changed since Sisko went to the academy.
     
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  4. Gov Kodos

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  6. Grendelsbayne

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    Or Sisko just really went back there THAT much more often. Nog didn't have to go every single day to be on a first name basis with someone. Maybe Sisko beamed home for lunch and dinner every day and Nog only went 2 or 3 times a week.
     
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  8. Tim Thomason

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    It's also just as possible that Nog utilized some other form of free public transportation (shuttlecraft bus, perhaps, from San Francisco to New Orleans might only take a few minutes for the 3500 km journey), or that transporter credits were only a thing in the 2350s and before, and the 2370s saw a move towards free transporter use that would evolve to the transport doorways of the 2390s.

    And dinner even once a week or twice a month might be enough for Nog to get to know everyone at Joseph's restaurant, especially if they don't get lots of Starfleet cadets (and certainly Ferengi) due to the distance.
     
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  9. Phily B

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    It wasn't poverty. She had a self sustainable and isolated hut, sat around drinking and smoking weed all day, basically doing whatever the fuck she wanted. I mean, in a utopia, people can do what they want and Raffi decided to do that. Was she happy? No, but that wasn't related to her living situation, it was to her work and life situation.

    I never got the argument.
     
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  10. dupersuper

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    I think it's all based on her odd, bitter line about Picard's chateaux. Edit that out and she's just another Trek outlier, but on Earth rather than off in some isolated colony a'la Flint, Graves, Soong, the Manhiems...
     
  11. Nerys Myk

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    She's pissed at Picard.
     
  12. dupersuper

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    That doesn't make the comment make sense. Maybe she's also pissed at all the people who stare at her when she goes into town for anything she can't replicate because she's got that burning stick in her mouth. Who does that anymore?
     
  13. Nerys Myk

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    She's lashing out, using the Chateau as ammunition to hurt him.
    Chameloids.
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  14. dupersuper

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    They didn't hang out on Earth as a rule...though I suppose we wouldn't know if they did...
     
  15. XCV330

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    I just figured whatever disposable wealth Raffi has gets vaped directly into her lungs.
     
  16. cooleddie74

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    She's not sick with an untreatable illness because she doesn't have the resources to pay for treatment and she's not lacking for food. She's not poor.
     
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    I mean, ambassadors did that on Nimbus 3.

    Also, being angry makes her comment make sense. It's not logical.
     
  18. Nerys Myk

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  19. GMDreia

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    Yep. If she IS living at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder by 24th century Earth standards though - I'd like to see that. It's as important to see how people live at the bottom on Earth, to really grasp how much the world's problems have been fixed, and how hopeful Star Trek actually is about the future. NOBODY on Earth has to lack for food or health care or shelter and that's the whole damn point. What passes for "poor" in a world that's eliminated actual poverty, is far better than what even passes for middle class in my region.
     
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  20. XCV330

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    She was just deliberately trying to hurt Picard's feelings due to her feelings of abandonment. We've all gotten dramatic in arguments. Probably not as dramatic as she did, since she'd had a weapon drawn on him, as well.