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Raffi's poverty
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Art doesn't talk. It's not a person.
You're trying way too hard.
So are you.
By using an easy to understand, common place phrase?
Aren't you getting a little off course here?
No, the markers are quite clear.
The only person off-course here is you with your gatekeeping.
Whatever you say.
Come again?
Art is many, many things to many, many people.
Drawing is art.
Painting is art.
Music is art.
Photography is art.
Graphic design is art.
Computer programming is art.
Singing is art.
Cooking is art.
Architecture is art.
Tuning your car just so is art.
As are many other things that are creative outlets for people. That is what art is, creative expression.
There have likely been hundreds of millions of pieces of art created in the last 24 hours on this planet. The vast majority will only ever be experienced by the creator or a small group of the creators acquaintances.
As far as Picard goes, I understood how he felt. If my house was to burn down tomorrow, my mind wouldn't be on the fancy stuff I own but a picture of Kirk, Spock and McCoy that my son drew for me for my birthday that is framed in my living room and a photobook my wife made me for Christmas, a collection of pictures of us through the years.
This shows me you really don't understand art, at all.
Drawing is art.
Painting is art.
Music is art.
Photography is art.
Graphic design is art.
Computer programming is art.
Singing is art.
Cooking is art.
Architecture is art.
Tuning your car just so is art.
As are many other things that are creative outlets for people. That is what art is, creative expression.
There have likely been hundreds of millions of pieces of art created in the last 24 hours on this planet. The vast majority will only ever be experienced by the creator or a small group of the creators acquaintances.
As far as Picard goes, I understood how he felt. If my house was to burn down tomorrow, my mind wouldn't be on the fancy stuff I own but a picture of Kirk, Spock and McCoy that my son drew for me for my birthday that is framed in my living room and a photobook my wife made me for Christmas, a collection of pictures of us through the years.
This shows me you really don't understand art, at all.
what would picasso say about single-color paintings and fat corners?
i don't know how anyone can take you seriously anymore XD
Art is art if someone who gets it says it is. Art does "speak" to its audience even if not everyone understands that philosophy.
I don't think this would have been a issue if she hadn't mentioned Picard's big manson. It really boils down to one line. I think the writers were trying to make her seem poor but also understood you can only go so far because what has already been established in Trek.
24th century tech would allow an individual to live in a far wider set of environments than we do, today. Also, with a replicator, transporter tech, and computer services of the time you really don't need to be near to anyone except when you want to be. House like Raffi's in a remote valley of the Himalayas? Easy for that kind of tech. I guess the complaints about poverty come from not being able to appreciate a place like Raffi's.I also found it odd that such a house near such a famous geological and film-historical location is supposed to be "humiliating"
I'd love to live there! Imagine being able to walk up that rock and take in the sunset every day!
Aliens and 5th Element did a good job showing minimal housing, some apartment like that would've made sense if they really wanted her to feel poor.
Something from TOS that was notable were all the really small populations in the colonies. It could just be the tech has created a culture of preference for personal/small society solitude since you don't need the tens of thousands needed for our heavy industry tech society and support handling the needed drudgery to keep it going. Everyone can live in a small quiet village. Raffi isn't living in poverty, she's living in a way possible when technology has removed the need for the massive support system of drudge work our population needs today to survive.
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Well, like Nog was at the academy, but I'm guessing regularly went to Sisko's dad's restaurant in New Orleans for dinner. and then back at night to sleep. Or how they showed in Picard the " Transporter Portals" at starfleet command.
Probably still have to walk to a transporter terminal to get places, regular citizens can't just tap a badge and transport anywhere. Look how Picard got to Raffi's house.. By Taxi. So Raffi is probably well away from any Terminals.
Now there is probably a transporter Satellite network for people like Starfleet to transport anywhere on the planet at any time.
Probably still have to walk to a transporter terminal to get places, regular citizens can't just tap a badge and transport anywhere. Look how Picard got to Raffi's house.. By Taxi. So Raffi is probably well away from any Terminals.
Now there is probably a transporter Satellite network for people like Starfleet to transport anywhere on the planet at any time.
They established as much. Joseph Sisko was the only person on the planet who could obtain live Tube Grubs.
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Why walk when there are all sorts of microtransport systems to be used. Present day Seoul is crawling with motorized skateboard contraptions, bicycles and other microtoys an app lets you pay to use, drive the thing where ever and leave it where anyone else can pick it up and trundle on. Only a small matter to make the things further computerized so you can have one drive to you in Trek style tech. The show is hopelessly behind the curve on what is possible with technology.
That's kind of problematic though. Sisko said he used up his transporter credits in his first month at the Academy because he was frequently beaming back to New Orleans for dinner, yet Nog kept it up enough that he was on a first name basis with Joe Sisko and his staff, but apparently did not expend his transporter credits.
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