Picard series confirmed post-Romulus

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by King Daniel Beyond, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. Damian

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    I think your example is flawed because we DID see Kirk die in Generations. There is direct visual evidence to the contrary. In the case of Star Trek (2009), the writer of the movie said this is an alternate reality and there is NO evidence in the movie to suggest what he is saying is not true, it fits what we saw on screen.

    But if you want to believe the prime universe was wiped out, that all of the original series, TNG, DS9 and Voyager never happened, have at it. In your case all that is left is Enterprise. Enjoy :nyah:
     
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  2. Tuskin38

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    And we've had evidence of Parallel Realities since Mirror, Mirror.
     
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  3. Damian

    Damian Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Ha-ha, true, but a lot of fans complain about technobabble.

    Didn't Spock say how many years in the future he was from in the movie too.
     
  4. King Daniel Beyond

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    2387. It's the stardate Spock's ship was launched, and from Spock's lips during the mind meld sequence, "129 years from now..." in 2258.

    The Picard Show is set 2399.
     
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  5. Tuskin38

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    Ah I completely forgot about that.
     
  6. Kirk Prime

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    Fair point. Very good. So if they do a storyline on that, it's now over a decade later. It could even be EASIER to resolve the prime universe issue. Picard could be talking about a message Spock Prime was able to send to the prime universe about Nero's fate in whatever context a Romulus destruction aftermath is used.

    It's actually not a bad topic for the first season, if not the pilot.
     
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  7. SolarisOne

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    The Prime Universe was erased? Egads! :wah:
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  8. Tuskin38

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    I doubt they'll go that far, the most I see us getting is a line drop about Spock going MIA 12 years ago. Presumably dead.

    Ah, a fellow Dragon Ball Fan.
     
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  9. WarpFactorZ

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    Not just CBS. It's in the dialogue. First, the Jellyfish says its construction date is "stardate 2387". Second, Spock says the Hobus star explodes 129 years in the future. That means nuKirk meets Spock Prime in the year 2258. Nero et al. -- who emerge in 2233 -- have been waiting "25 years" for Spock Prime to come out of the white hole, which (presto) makes it 2258.

    Edit: Ninja'd multiple times while I researched the script!
     
  10. Tuskin38

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    Yes, two people said that already and I admitted my mistake.
     
  11. Nightdiamond

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    Too much destruction porn already I think. They didn't need to destroy Romulus or Vulcan either.

    If they try to show any more epic things happening, you have to wonder if the viewers are going to care or if its going to look overblown. With the Kelvin movie being shelved, it has already left the Vulcans hanging without much closure or resolution.

    Before that, the Romulan government was overthrown and all the leaders killed, Cardassia was already reduced to ruins (800 million dead), earth has been directly attacked probably more than 3 times already, etc.

    I never really had much reaction to destruction of Romulus it just seemed really arbitrary--too much destruction had already happened.

    The interesting part though-- we might get see a dystopian style setting if all this is true. There'll be a lot of story opportunities.
     
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  12. Nyotarules

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    Plus some Romulans must have smooth foreheads or else Spock would have stood out like a sore thumb
     
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  13. WarpFactorZ

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    There was closure on the Vulcans. Spock Prime helped them set up New Vulcan for several years before his death. What else do you think is necessary to know?
     
  14. Nightdiamond

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    I would have liked to see some more filler . Because of the stretch between the 3 movies and nothing much in between, the saga with Vulcan seemed empty. We never got to see or meet anymore Vulcans and see their plight or how they reacted to it. Just descriptions and mentioning.

    So everything about it seemed rushed and then settled offscreen and without anymore follow ups it's like, 'Vulcan was destroyed by a giant drill-- well, we found a new planet for a colony oh well that's it".
     
  15. Nyotarules

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    That's Star Trek tradition, what happened after the Genesis device, how are the whales getting on, how long does it take be a captain once your graduate nuKirk, what was Nero doing for 25 years?
     
  16. fireproof78

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    /thread

    Also this. But, who knows? Maybe Trek detail fans will get lucky and the Picard show will tie up all the loose ends from prior Treks! :D
     
  17. Owain Taggart

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    Nero was fiddling his thumbs waiting for someone to screw up? Unfortunately happened to be someone named Spock who failed to save the Romulan Day... heh :D

    Naw, apparently according to the Countdown comics, Nero was successful within the empire, with a wife and kids, and if I remember right was off on a mission away from Romulus when the supernova blew, and with his wife and kids on Romulus, he sought revenge. This is something that really should have been in the movie as it gives a good background on his motivation. You'd think they would have caught that decades in advance in order to prepare themselves, but whatever. Spock tried to save them from impending doom and failed.
     
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  18. King Daniel Beyond

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    Nero's backstory with his pregnant wife was in the movie. We even see a hologram of her when he's interrogating Pike.
     
  19. fireproof78

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    Spock called the destruction of Romulus "unthinkable" so apparently something was off in the calculations.
     
  20. Korusan

    Korusan Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    "An alternate reality?"

    SPOCK
    "Precisely. Whatever our lives might have been, our destinies have changed."

    The presumption of the old timeline being overwritten holds as much water as it not being overwritten.