https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/age-old-problem-fake-news-180968945/
In USA it dates back to.. well birth of USA
So human race as a whole has been eating this shit up for ages.
Kurtzman Out?
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In USA it dates back to.. well birth of USA
So human race as a whole has been eating this shit up for ages.
Actually, I think it's a good thing that these are talked about here.
At least here it quickly becomes apparent through all our due diligence what's real and whats fake.
But other than more negativity, they don't really bring much to the conversation. It's already a divided fanbase. It doesn't need to get worse.
"...I think we’ve found a story that honors everything that people love about the character, but in ways that are not what you expect — and yet, become more and more familiar as the show goes. And that’s what’s exciting. A lot has happened to Jean-Luc Picard in the intervening years [since Nemesis]. There’s been a lot going on and he’s had to deal with some new things, he’s had to deal with some old things, and both of those things kind of come colliding together."
Well, we now know that Nemesis is definitely a prominent part of the continuing Picard story.
There's always going to be "negativity" around.
One just has to learn to see it for what it is and rise above it in ones daily life.
It's certainly possible, but couldn't Kurtzman just as easily be referring to some other past event, for example, the events of Reunification parts 1 and 2? Or perhaps some post-Nemesis event that would still be fifteen years past by the time this show is set?
No, he's just noting that Nemesis is the last time we saw Picard. He doesn't say anything about it being a pivotal part of his life.
What the quote does tell us is, unfortunately, the TNG films won't be retconned out of existence!
What damage could be done?
I really want an interviewer to show him the video lolWhy is he still doing interviews, hasn't anyone told him he's fired? Show him the YouTube video and tell him to clear out his desk!
It's confirmation bias. They believe that Trek is doomed in the hands of Kurtzman so any news that states it carries more weight.
Confirmation bias. It's that simple.
No, they had 53 years and remembrance of Kirk and Co. (plus Pike in "The Cage") <--- Which were in CONSTANT stripped daily reruns for 18 years before TNG was even conceived.
That said, I'm sure te TNG faithful will in fact out nerd the TOS era nerd rage simply because they expect snooze fest Berman style Trek, which is something I don't think Kurtzman can do - and further which Patrick Stewart was and is not interested in reprising. Remember, Mr. Stewart first passed on the offer, until Kurtzman and Co. said, "No, it won't be TNG redux..." - which I believe is what the hard core TNG crowd really wants, but ain't gonna get - and Kurtzman pitched his idea which IS different and something Patrick Stewart got excited about.
Of course remember, the last time Patrick Stewart had input of a Trek project was "ST: Insurrection", which was going to be more akin to Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness" novel - until Patrick Stewart weighed in that after "ST: First Contact" he diodn't think another 'Dark' story was the way to go and he had the script 'lightened up' to the point we got this:
"Mambo Picard"
If you're a TNG fan expecting a return to late 1980ies TNG style Trek...be afraid...be VERY afraid...
And further:
Hahahaha! really?
From this article:
http://trekcore.com/blog/2019/06/ne...ek-updates-picard-discovery-lower-decks-more/
Quoting Kurtzman directly:
^^^
Note bolded text above.
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Because that would make too much sense and the best type of negativity is to be nonsensical. Their bottom line is to be negative. How or why doesn't matter. Just that they are. That's part of why they're not credible.
Which just proves they don’t mean anything they say.
It seems to me as if people lately want to find ways to identify. With something. Anything. In uncertain times it gives one a bedrock, however filmsy to base one's comments, thoughts, and gradually turn those into the nam-shubs that they internalize with.
And it's easier to identify with not liking something ardently. To feel like you were somehow robbed or are being deprived. you don't need evidence, just a feeling attached to group zeitgeist. Following in the herd with this motivation it is difficult to gain much perspective.
"There's a sucker born every minute." PT Barnum would have a youtube channel, now. Less overhead, and no travel required.
I think it's quite obvious that ME are disingenuous. They are a "hater" channel, and these channels sadly make money
I'm a big boxing fan and they exist in that fanbase too, they hone in on one particular topic, go full negative mode on it and it attracts people who have an irrational hatred of that thing..
Hey if people want to pay them $20 to have "Michael Burnham is satan" flash on the screen for 5 seconds, we'll, a fool and his money and all that.
Picard is returning...I already am!If you're a TNG fan expecting a return to late 1980ies TNG style Trek...be afraid...be VERY afraid...
As an aside, when did it become socially acceptable on TREKBBS to insult TNG?
I see people dismissing it as sort of "old guff" all the time these days?
Just seems odd especially when any critique of discovery, no matter how mild, raises heckles like you wouldn't belive.
Can't we just let people enjoy why they enjoy
I see people dismissing it as sort of "old guff" all the time these days?
Just seems odd especially when any critique of discovery, no matter how mild, raises heckles like you wouldn't belive.
Can't we just let people enjoy why they enjoy
Mostly because Discovery isn't a character show, just Michael Burnham and some moody blue/orange (nothing else) lighting and OTT action scenes.
I think tng was very good most of the time and great several times. However it’s a 90s show. That same style I just don’t think would work today.
I have high hopes for Picard. As much as I loved tng i wouldn’t really be interested in tng 2.0. It’s been done. I want to see something new.
I think the films left a bad taste in a lot of fans mouths.
And that is the main problem I have with Discovery right now, too much Michael Burnham and slam bang action, too little of everything else. They need balance.
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