They are IM movies only in name, they're Tom Cruise movies through and through.
Making Jim Phelps the villain in the first one, destroyed any interest from me.
I haven't seen any of the others.
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Making Jim Phelps the villain in the first one, destroyed any interest from me.
I haven't seen any of the others.
The only direct connective tissue I can think of in the first two seasons (if we don't count obvious symbology like Romulans, Klingons, an organisation called Starfleet that has fancy pyjama uniforms, and the ship's name) is McCoy appearing briefly in Farpoint, the polywater virus recurring, and a brief verbal mention by Beverly of the NCC-1701 in the same episode. Both occur in the first two episodes, and from then onward the show just does entirely its own thing.
It's a pretty big departure in most ways - the Starfleet of TNG don't really behave like the Starfleet of TOS, none of the main characters are connected to TOS in any way (unlike, say, SNW where half are TOS characters and the other half are connected to TOS plots, like La'an's backstory relying on "Space Seed" and "Arena"), etc. TNG feels as though it's endeavouring to stand alone, rather than define itself against an existing series, which might be the way to go in future.
Well, to be fair, SNW takes place on what will someday be Kirk's Enterprise a few years before he gains command of it; the Enterprise-D is only a few times removed namesake, a century later.
same tech, Spock, Sarek, Scotty, Prime Directive, Khan...
Trek XI was actually quite successful and popular, the highest grossing Trek movie at the box office. The problem was Paramount dragged their ass with the sequels resulting in diminished interest in the sequels.
I would agree with this. The problem, at least that I have observed, is that the voices around the continuity are the loudest and shout it far more often. Those who are generally satisfied or generally unsatisfied are just going to stop tuning in.
I would agree.
Quite honestly, the reason why I'm all for a reboot is because we're past major mileposts that Star Trek references from our real world history. So, taking a page from TOS and setting it 30 years ahead of our current timeline, and do the whole major events, WW3 if you like, and Starfleet coming out of a United Earth and following the adventures of a ship (I'd pick the Yorktown or Excelsior or Shenzhou for a name), and a similar mix to the crew, with a few more aliens, plus a mix for the ensemble. Set a distinct history for the period, with specific dates, that way if you have to reference it you don't have the infighting over these details like now.
Only the person you were quoting.
If anything, it sounds like making a prequel is one of the few possibilities we can exclude, if this is to be "a new take on the Star Trek universe and not connected to any previous or current television series, movie or prior movie development projects." I mean, you literally can't make a prequel without connecting it to a previous series or movie, that's the nature of what a prequel is.
Though, at this stage, who knows. The statements are so vague, plus anything can happen in development. This movie could be almost anything.
It's at least nice to start over with a new executive team that hasn't fucked this up eight times already since Beyond. Maybe this team will prove capable of actually making a movie!
The truth is we already passed that post back in the 90s with the Eugenics Wars.
Although, I wouldn't be too surprised if it turns out fans are taking that line a lot more literally than the producers intended it to be.
Not to mention, it's filtered through an entertainment journalist and their editors, who probably have no idea how their tiny word choices will be interpreted within the sprawling chronology of a 60 year franchise.
But I'm super curious to learn what they meant by it, someday. (hopefully. obviously this could just be the latest development failure)
I do not recall TAS doing that with TOS, or to the degree of the DISCOverse.
...until TNG tried to make "events" by dragging Spock and Sarek into episodes.
Sure. We’re already seeing it parsed as to what it surely must mean, even though it’s almost certainly boilerplate that means absolutely nothing but “We’re making another Trek movie. Probably.” Just as happened with the earliest DISCO teaser text.
My friend we have been down this road several times the last few years. Do you really want me to regurgitate it all???
Whatever...
My Favorite is Spock having a sexual relationship with T'pring. Something that most definitely was not intended in her debut in TOS as well as Chapel. People try to justify it but it is like trying to fix a square peg in a round Hole. But let's just bring up that Spock Smiled In the Menagerie and yelled a lot.
That right there says he's bedded three different woman before his 5 year mission with Kirk and was open about it????.. NOPE it's totally at odds with how his character was during Amok time and extremely guarded by even talking about sex. Oh yeah and then there is Kirk who knows Pike very well and has been on the Enterprise several times during Pikes time.There are a ton more and I don't think I have to keep going.
Strange New worlds on its own is fine I guess. But as a prequel to TOS....NOPE.
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1) You can find countless examples on this forum.
2) When Bernd Schneider from "Ex Astris Scientia" writes his episode reviews, he writes down continuity errors in an extra section.
Here is a detailed, organized, and large list of continuity errors:
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Ex Astris Scientia - Star Trek Discovery (DIS) Season 3 Reviews
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Ex Astris Scientia - Star Trek Discovery (DIS) Season 4 Reviews
Star Trek Discovery season 4 episode guide and reviews
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Ex Astris Scientia - Star Trek Discovery (DIS) Season 5 Reviews
Star Trek Discovery season 5 episode guide and reviews
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Ex Astris Scientia - Star Trek Picard (PIC) Season 1 Reviews
Star Trek Picard season 1 episode guide and reviews
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Ex Astris Scientia - Star Trek Picard (PIC) Season 2 Reviews
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Ex Astris Scientia - Star Trek Picard (PIC) Season 3 Reviews
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Ex Astris Scientia - Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (SNW) Season 1 Reviews
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 1 episode guide and reviews
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Ex Astris Scientia - Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (SNW) Season 2 Reviews
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3) Major Grin's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@MajorGrin/videos
TOS doesn't fit with anything else so why should SNW be any different?
TOS fits more with TOS movies TNG,VOY and DS9 better than SNW And Disco. What are you doing..looking at the set design or something.??
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1) You can find countless examples on this forum.
2) When Bernd Schneider from "Ex Astris Scientia" writes his episode reviews, he writes down continuity errors in an extra section.
Here is a detailed, organized, and large list of continuity errors:
Ex Astris Scientia - Star Trek Discovery (DIS) Season 1 Reviews
Star Trek Discovery season 1 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.orgEx Astris Scientia - Star Trek Discovery (DIS) Season 2 Reviews
Star Trek Discovery season 2 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.orgEx Astris Scientia - Star Trek Discovery (DIS) Season 3 Reviews
Star Trek Discovery season 3 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.orgEx Astris Scientia - Star Trek Discovery (DIS) Season 4 Reviews
Star Trek Discovery season 4 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.orgEx Astris Scientia - Star Trek Discovery (DIS) Season 5 Reviews
Star Trek Discovery season 5 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.orgEx Astris Scientia - Star Trek Picard (PIC) Season 1 Reviews
Star Trek Picard season 1 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.orgEx Astris Scientia - Star Trek Picard (PIC) Season 2 Reviews
Star Trek Picard season 2 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.orgEx Astris Scientia - Star Trek Picard (PIC) Season 3 Reviews
Star Trek Picard season 3 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.orgEx Astris Scientia - Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (SNW) Season 1 Reviews
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 1 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.orgEx Astris Scientia - Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (SNW) Season 2 Reviews
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 2 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.orgEx Astris Scientia - Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (SNW) Season 3 Reviews
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 3 episode guide and reviewswww.ex-astris-scientia.org
3) Major Grin's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@MajorGrin/videos
No. The characters, tech and organizations don't track. Nothing feels organic but wallpapered over.TOS fits more with TOS movies TNG,VOY and DS9 better than SNW And Disco. What are you doing..looking at the set design or something.??
He had three relationships that went poorly.
Why would anybody want to bring that up in a conversation, or even talk about that?
Never mind a half Vulcan/half Human who is trying to keep his human half under control after those not-so-great experiences.
And then his biology forces him to once again confront one of those women who still finds him undesirable.
(well two actually if you count throwing the soup at Chapel)
Because Commodore Mendenze assumed that Kirk had never met Pike.
Nothing in that episode indicated he hadn't more than once.
Mostly the assumptions are made by fans not actually paying attention to the dialogue.
(or over interpreting what was said)
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