Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley developing Star Trek reboot for Paramount

[DaveyNY]

^ Honestly, the Jim Phelps thing is why I've only ever seen the one Mission Impossible movie.

They are IM movies only in name, they're Tom Cruise movies through and through.

Making Jim Phelps the villain in the first one, destroyed any interest from me.
I haven't seen any of the others.

 

[Starflight]

That appears to be the current narrative, but TNG wasn't really like that?

The only direct connective tissue I can think of in the first two seasons (if we don't count obvious symbology like Romulans, Klingons, an organisation called Starfleet that has fancy pyjama uniforms, and the ship's name) is McCoy appearing briefly in Farpoint, the polywater virus recurring, and a brief verbal mention by Beverly of the NCC-1701 in the same episode. Both occur in the first two episodes, and from then onward the show just does entirely its own thing.

It's a pretty big departure in most ways - the Starfleet of TNG don't really behave like the Starfleet of TOS, none of the main characters are connected to TOS in any way (unlike, say, SNW where half are TOS characters and the other half are connected to TOS plots, like La'an's backstory relying on "Space Seed" and "Arena"), etc. TNG feels as though it's endeavouring to stand alone, rather than define itself against an existing series, which might be the way to go in future.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

none of the main characters are connected to TOS in any way (unlike, say, SNW where half are TOS characters and the other half are connected to TOS plots, like La'an's backstory relying on "Space Seed" and "Arena")

Well, to be fair, SNW takes place on what will someday be Kirk's Enterprise a few years before he gains command of it; the Enterprise-D is only a few times removed namesake, a century later.

 

[Set Harth]

The only direct connective tissue I can think of in the first two seasons (if we don't count obvious symbology like Romulans, Klingons, an organisation called Starfleet that has fancy pyjama uniforms, and the ship's name) is McCoy appearing briefly in Farpoint, the polywater virus recurring, and a brief verbal mention by Beverly of the NCC-1701 in the same episode. Both occur in the first two episodes, and from then onward the show just does entirely its own thing.

same tech, Spock, Sarek, Scotty, Prime Directive, Khan...

 

[The Wormhole]

JJ was trying to reboot the whole shebang back in 09, and bury the previous stuff. All new. That went over like a lead balloon.

Trek XI was actually quite successful and popular, the highest grossing Trek movie at the box office. The problem was Paramount dragged their ass with the sequels resulting in diminished interest in the sequels.

 

[fireproof78]

To be honest I think most fans just want a good sci-fi series that feels recognisably Star Trek in tone and structure. I get the sense that the number of viewers who really stress over continuity (in a franchise that very clearly is designed to have a loose-at-best continuity) is fairly low.

I would agree with this. The problem, at least that I have observed, is that the voices around the continuity are the loudest and shout it far more often. Those who are generally satisfied or generally unsatisfied are just going to stop tuning in.

I reckon you could make essentially a new TOS - random adventures totally disconnected to each other and to anything that came before them - and people would buy into it so long as the writing and creativity were as strong as the best of 60s - 90s Star Trek. TNG's method of "this is theoretically connected to Star Trek, but clearly isn't really, and we're not going to bring it up much" is probably the best method.

I would agree.

Quite honestly, the reason why I'm all for a reboot is because we're past major mileposts that Star Trek references from our real world history. So, taking a page from TOS and setting it 30 years ahead of our current timeline, and do the whole major events, WW3 if you like, and Starfleet coming out of a United Earth and following the adventures of a ship (I'd pick the Yorktown or Excelsior or Shenzhou for a name), and a similar mix to the crew, with a few more aliens, plus a mix for the ensemble. Set a distinct history for the period, with specific dates, that way if you have to reference it you don't have the infighting over these details like now.

 

[Sakonna]

Who says it's a prequel?

Only the person you were quoting.

If anything, it sounds like making a prequel is one of the few possibilities we can exclude, if this is to be "a new take on the Star Trek universe and not connected to any previous or current television series, movie or prior movie development projects." I mean, you literally can't make a prequel without connecting it to a previous series or movie, that's the nature of what a prequel is.

Though, at this stage, who knows. The statements are so vague, plus anything can happen in development. This movie could be almost anything.

It's at least nice to start over with a new executive team that hasn't fucked this up eight times already since Beyond. Maybe this team will prove capable of actually making a movie!

 

[Set Harth]

Quite honestly, the reason why I'm all for a reboot is because we're past major mileposts that Star Trek references from our real world history.

The truth is we already passed that post back in the 90s with the Eugenics Wars.

 

[The Wormhole]

if this is to be "a new take on the Star Trek universe and not connected to any previous or current television series, movie or prior movie development projects."

Although, I wouldn't be too surprised if it turns out fans are taking that line a lot more literally than the producers intended it to be.

 

[Ovation]

2Vix 2Furious

You are dead to me! DEAD!

 

[Sakonna]

Although, I wouldn't be too surprised if it turns out fans are taking that line a lot more literally than the producers intended it to be.

Not to mention, it's filtered through an entertainment journalist and their editors, who probably have no idea how their tiny word choices will be interpreted within the sprawling chronology of a 60 year franchise.

But I'm super curious to learn what they meant by it, someday. (hopefully. obviously this could just be the latest development failure)