Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley developing Star Trek reboot for Paramount

[Set Harth]

And how long would such a thing last?

 

[fireproof78]

And how long would such a thing last?

Ten years.

 

[Jayson1]

But then that just sets a precedent for any incoming person to just be all like nah I choose to ignore this, this and this because I feel like it and we end up with a franchise that goes nowhere and is just stale reboots from the same jumping off point like Terminator.

Trek has been around since the 60's. It seems like the inevitable direction for such a old franchise. It's kind of surprising that it hasn't already happened. What I am kind of hoping is that if the do a complete reboot that instead of the constant reboots were they just keeping seeing the same old characters in new permutations we will see the birth of a second sustained universe with several shows and movies in that same continuity. KInd of like how the prime universe became the prime universe and not just a collection of TOS reboots.

 

[Danja]

If you have a show on a different ship, there is simply no point in rebooting. I can't think of a single franchise that rebooted it's continuity without keeping some form of the original setting and characters. It would be like setting Ron Moore's Galactica on the Battlestar Poseidon, and having all new characters.

We've had:

Star Trek: Voyager
Star Trek: Discovery
Star Trek: Prodigy (Protostar, Dauntless, Voyager-A)
Star Trek: Lower Decks (Cerritos)

We've had various side stories set within the vast universe that is Star Trek.

Poseidon could work (Battlestar Galactica: The Poseidon Chronicles). They've already done Caprica.

 

[Dar70]

Exactly. Any "changes" that that DSC or SNW made to the canon are largely on the "James R Kirk" level of inconsequentialness.

You know I'm getting tired of the whole James R Kirk thing. Especially when trying to excuse the massive rewrites that SNW and DISCO did to previous Trek. No one and I mean NO ONE has ever said Trek continuity is perfect. Someone would have to be a complete fool to say that. But before 2009 they tried to keep things cohesive. Enterprise probably played the most loose before 2009. But in retrospect it seems pretty solid compared to the Klutzman era.

Anyhow I'm pretty sure Paramount plans on a complete clean slate this time. No connections whatsoever to other franchises. Unless they change their minds between now and production of the film that is what it looks like. I hope that is what they do. Because Trek is a complete mess at this point. It no longer makes much sense on a scripted scale or visual scale.

I would love to see a Trek movie Series like Mission Impossible. An 8+ movie franchise with its own self contained universe. ZERO ties to anything else. No alternate reality BS, no legacy characters, new ship designs, characters etc. NO KIRK ,SPOCK, BONES, UHURA, ENTERPRISE A to Z...None of that.........and I hope the new writers are smart enough to finally do something like that.

Hopefully Academy is the last nail in the coffin for "Prime" universe Trek.

 

[fireproof78]

No one and I mean NO ONE has ever said Trek continuity is perfect. Someone would have to be a complete fool to say that. But before 2009 they tried to keep things cohesive.

Only if you don't include TOS.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Only if you don't include TOS.

Among other things.

 

[fireproof78]

Among other things.

Oh, the list is long. What has changed is the poor amount of imagination that use to fuel fan discussion. It's like people whining over LEGO not making a particular set or property. The whole point of the toy is to build stuff yourself not sit their and complain about LEGO not catering to your specific needs.

Star Trek sticks around for me because it prompts imagination not because I can memorize facts like a history book.

 

[Set Harth]

Oh, the list is long.

And distinguished.

 

[Danja]

I would love to see a Trek movie Series like Mission Impossible. An 8+ movie franchise with its own self contained universe. ZERO ties to anything else. No alternate reality BS, no legacy characters, new ship designs, characters etc. NO KIRK ,SPOCK, BONES, UHURA, ENTERPRISE A to Z...None of that.........and I hope the new writers are smart enough to finally do something like that.

Why call it "Star Trek" if it has no ties whatsoever to the rest of the franchise?

It doesn't make sense.

 

[Mudd]

What makes anyone think this would be a comedy?

 

[Char Kais]

What makes anyone think this would be a comedy?

Because comedies or movies with a comedic tone are the only type of movies John Francis Daley and Jonathan Goldstein have ever done.

• Horrible Bosses 2011 - crime comedy film
• The Incredible Burt Wonderstone 2013 - comedy film
• Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 2013 - animated science fiction comedy film
• Horrible Bosses 2 2014 - crime comedy film
• Vacation 2015 - road comedy film
• Spider-Man: Homecoming 2017 (comedic tone)
• Game Night 2018 - black comedy action film
• Vacation Friends 2021 - buddy comedy film
• Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves 2023 - fantasy heist comedy film
• The Flash 2023 (comedic tone)

 

[Firebird]

Especially when trying to excuse the massive rewrites that SNW and DISCO did to previous Trek.

You keep making this claim. Provide specific examples.

 

[UssGlenn]

We've had:

Star Trek: Voyager
Star Trek: Discovery
Star Trek: Prodigy (Protostar, Dauntless, Voyager-A)
Star Trek: Lower Decks (Cerritos)

We've had various side stories set within the vast universe that is Star Trek.

Poseidon could work (Battlestar Galactica: The Poseidon Chronicles). They've already done Caprica.

Right, but none of the shows you listed are reboots, they all take place in the original continuity. An example of a reboot is like Ben Stiller's Starsky and Hutch. It's a new adaptation of the original show, and the old show does not take place in its past.

I did just think of an example of a reboot that doesn't use the original setup, Ghostbusters 2016. It has different characters and plot and doesn't take place in the world of the original. And we all know how well that one went over.