Well it's a prequel again. So if that is the way they are going it needs to be a total reboot....they can do whatever they want. No ties at all to anything that was before..
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Well it's a prequel again. So if that is the way they are going it needs to be a total reboot....they can do whatever they want. No ties at all to anything that was before..
Why call it "Star Trek" if it has no ties whatsoever to the rest of the franchise?
It doesn't make sense.
Have you ever heard of "Gundam".
A very successful IP with multiple independent "timelines" (continuities).
There are not a lot of people in the Gundam fandom who say, "Why make a Gundam anime that is not connected to the 'Universal Century'?"
Not only does Gundam have multiple independent continuities. The original and most popular continuity, the "Universal Century", has multiple independent iterations: "Main", "Origin", "GQ" (the infographic is inaccurate in that regard).
I wonder why both the Star Trek fandom and the IP owners have such a big problem with multiple independent continuities for live-action movies/shows.
There are independent continuities in Star Trek for novels, comic books, and games, but all live-action media is in one continuity (with different timelines). All live action media is narratively connected. The IP owners went out of their way to ensure that ("splitting the timeline" for the 2009 movie. The Star Trek Discovery S05E10 epilogue to narratively connect the Short Trek "Calypso".).
So far the IP owners lacked the courage for a clear cut. They thought they needed to place all live-action Star Trek into one continuity to get legitimacy.
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Fan response has demonstrated that to be true.
JJ was trying to reboot the whole shebang back in 09, and bury the previous stuff. All new. That went over like a lead balloon. People love there continutiy ( to a point)
Plenty of stories in the "prime" timeline to cover or create. Tng, Ds9, Voyager made 26 episodes a year.. Plenty of space for a few movies.
Plenty of stories in the "prime" timeline to cover or create. Tng, Ds9, Voyager made 26 episodes a year.. Plenty of space for a few movies.
Not for me. I love the Kelvinverse movies and I liked how it also preserved the Prime Universe to boot. I would love to see more stories in that universe and it would be fun to see a different version of TNG. Ro is character from day one. Yar doesn't die. Troi is the ships pilot. Data is a female. Made in the image of his dad's wife we saw in a episode. Wesley isn't a nerd. Picard actually has a French accent.
Who says it's a prequel?
"Star Trek" to most people is Kirk and Spock. Ergo, this is another new Kirk and Spock.
They had Scotty and McCoy.
From what I read that is what they are doing. But it could change before 2027..
Not really, no.
He didn't want to bury the past but wanted a clean slate to make it easier to enter for casual views. It's not like the old disappeared.
People obsessed over their continuity and will find fault even with a clean reboot.
I think they said this would be a follow up to anything already established. Also I think Kirk and Spock might just be played out this point. I think their will be a hook that really speaks to fans. I am just not sure what it will be. You know their is always been talk of a Earth vs Romulan War show or movie. Granted that is another prequel but they could just do that and maybe even ignore Starfleet being part of it just be humans before a Starfleet was created.
Part of me also wonders if they would do a War of the Worlds Klingons attack present day Earth and humans have to fight back or if they want to do a comedy make it the Ferengi show up. DS9 kind of did this but now you could do it with a bigger budget and different characters.
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D&D Honor Among Thieves was pretty good, these two might actually have what it takes to make a fun Star Trek film.
People react badly to the CBS stuff in large part because it insists on being part of a larger pre-existng continuity, which makes all the contradictions - which are inevitable and innumerable - stand out even more. As for the Abrams stuff, I think most negative reactions were more tied to the tone and style of the films, and the treatment of the characters, rather than the fact it took place in an alternate timeline.
I reckon you could make essentially a new TOS - random adventures totally disconnected to each other and to anything that came before them - and people would buy into it so long as the writing and creativity were as strong as the best of 60s - 90s Star Trek. TNG's method of "this is theoretically connected to Star Trek, but clearly isn't really, and we're not going to bring it up much" is probably the best method.
To be honest I think most fans just want a good sci-fi series that feels recognisably Star Trek in tone and structure. I get the sense that the number of viewers who really stress over continuity (in a franchise that very clearly is designed to have a loose-at-best continuity) is fairly low.
People react badly to the CBS stuff in large part because it insists on being part of a larger pre-existng continuity, which makes all the contradictions - which are inevitable and innumerable - stand out even more. As for the Abrams stuff, I think most negative reactions were more tied to the tone and style of the films, and the treatment of the characters, rather than the fact it took place in an alternate timeline.
I reckon you could make essentially a new TOS - random adventures totally disconnected to each other and to anything that came before them - and people would buy into it so long as the writing and creativity were as strong as the best of 60s - 90s Star Trek. TNG's method of "this is theoretically connected to Star Trek, but clearly isn't really, and we're not going to bring it up much" is probably the best method.
It would be interesting if someone could figure out how many inconsistencies are internal to their particular series, as opposed to existing throughout the entire franchise.
Between TNG, DS9, and VOY, there were character and location crossovers, of course.
Between TNG, DS9, and VOY, there were character and location crossovers, of course.
I'll raise you even better and give you an in-the-same-episode inconsistency!
From The Changeling:
Literally about a minute later:
(I know someone will be along to explain it away somehow in a minute, but it always makes me laugh)
That appears to be the current narrative, but TNG wasn't really like that?
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