• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

I Hate Myself

Just get a hooker for crying out loud. You'll have had to pay a woman to fuck you, but at least you'll lose the V-Card.

That would be terrible. Losing your virginity should be accompanied by a gain in a spiritual love and understanding of your partner.
 
My first time was on a futon mattress on the floor and it just hurt. There was nothing spiritual about it.
 
Just get a hooker for crying out loud. You'll have had to pay a woman to fuck you, but at least you'll lose the V-Card.

That would be terrible. Losing your virginity should be accompanied by a gain in a spiritual love and understanding of your partner.

Oh, come on. It's people like you treating virginity as something sacred to be guarded that gives people issues about losing it.

My advice: just get it over and done with any way you can so you'll quit worrying about it.
 
My first time was on a futon mattress on the floor and it just hurt. There was nothing spiritual about it.
My fist time was in the backseats of this.

fiat128001.jpg


Uncomfortable, but undeniably adventurous. :lol:
 
Luckily, I never had the pleasure of entertain the carabinieri with my manliness. Got pretty close a couple of times, but we used the "dive between the seats and don't make a sound!" technique. :lol:
 
My first time was on a futon mattress on the floor and it just hurt. There was nothing spiritual about it.

Just get a hooker for crying out loud. You'll have had to pay a woman to fuck you, but at least you'll lose the V-Card.

That would be terrible. Losing your virginity should be accompanied by a gain in a spiritual love and understanding of your partner.

Oh, come on. It's people like you treating virginity as something sacred to be guarded that gives people issues about losing it.

My advice: just get it over and done with any way you can so you'll quit worrying about it.

Just get a hooker for crying out loud. You'll have had to pay a woman to fuck you, but at least you'll lose the V-Card.

That would be terrible. Losing your virginity should be accompanied by a gain in a spiritual love and understanding of your partner.
Why didn't you tell me that 34 years ago? :(

My whole point is that it shouldn't be something you pay for, it should happen naturally, willingly, and that it should be (should as in I would hope it would be) something wonderful, "spiritual" and on a sensual level of mutual self respect. I mean, it was for me, and I know it's different for each person, but I would at least hope it would be enjoyable for everyone involved.
 
My whole point is that it shouldn't be something you pay for, it should happen naturally, willingly, and that it should be (should as in I would hope it would be) something wonderful, "spiritual" and on a sensual level of mutual self respect. I mean, it was for me, and I know it's different for each person, but I would at least hope it would be enjoyable for everyone involved.

You're a dreamer. I love that about you btw. :mallory:
 
My first time was on a futon mattress on the floor and it just hurt. There was nothing spiritual about it.

Oh, come on. It's people like you treating virginity as something sacred to be guarded that gives people issues about losing it.

My advice: just get it over and done with any way you can so you'll quit worrying about it.

That would be terrible. Losing your virginity should be accompanied by a gain in a spiritual love and understanding of your partner.
Why didn't you tell me that 34 years ago? :(

My whole point is that it shouldn't be something you pay for, it should happen naturally, willingly, and that it should be (should as in I would hope it would be) something wonderful, "spiritual" and on a sensual level of mutual self respect. I mean, it was for me, and I know it's different for each person, but I would at least hope it would be enjoyable for everyone involved.

As I recall, you were desperate to lose your virginity. I guess you have now? And now you think it's something sacred and spiritual and whatever?

Look, how you conduct your sex life is your business. I think it's presumptuous to tell someone how they "should" feel about losing their virginity or how they should go about it. If somebody wants to pay a hooker to do the deed, let 'em. If they want to take your approach, fine. But telling people how it "should" be is over the line, frankly. It's attitudes like that that make sex such a big hang-up for people.
 
My whole point is that it shouldn't be something you pay for, it should happen naturally, willingly, and that it should be (should as in I would hope it would be) something wonderful, "spiritual" and on a sensual level of mutual self respect. I mean, it was for me, and I know it's different for each person, but I would at least hope it would be enjoyable for everyone involved.

You're a dreamer. I love that about you btw. :mallory:

Thank you. :D
I'm an old fashioned romantic. I love everything involved in the romance.

My first time was on a futon mattress on the floor and it just hurt. There was nothing spiritual about it.



Why didn't you tell me that 34 years ago? :(

My whole point is that it shouldn't be something you pay for, it should happen naturally, willingly, and that it should be (should as in I would hope it would be) something wonderful, "spiritual" and on a sensual level of mutual self respect. I mean, it was for me, and I know it's different for each person, but I would at least hope it would be enjoyable for everyone involved.

As I recall, you were desperate to lose your virginity. I guess you have now? And now you think it's something sacred and spiritual and whatever?

Look, how you conduct your sex life is your business. I think it's presumptuous to tell someone how they "should" feel about losing their virginity or how they should go about it. If somebody wants to pay a hooker to do the deed, let 'em. If they want to take your approach, fine. But telling people how it "should" be is over the line, frankly. It's attitudes like that that make sex such a big hang-up for people.

You assume too much. I'm not using "should" as in "this is the way it's supposed to be", I'm using "should" in the sense of "this is how I hope it would be for you". In other words, you're getting pissy because I hope people lose their virginity in a moment of something wonderful, and not just because they feel they have to, and you're assuming that I'm placing some kind of mandatory condition on it when I'm not.

I have had many moments in my life when I wanted to lose my virginity, and never did, because it simply didn't feel right. I don't place restrictions on people's sexuality, on how they should (as in "this is the way it must be") behave, I just want them to find it as a warm, loving experience and not just a physical hurdle to jump. God forbid I want someone to be happy and have a happy sexual experience.
 
I don't know ... I'm kinda with J. on this one. I don't think anyone could accuse me of having hang ups about sex, but the first time ... well, if it can't be special, then at least not with a hooker - or a male prostitute, not someone you have to pay to have sex with you.

But, that's just me. Of course, to each his own.
 
I don't know ... I'm kinda with J. on this one. I don't think anyone could accuse me of having hang ups about sex, but the first time ... well, if it can't be special, then at least not with a hooker - or a male prostitute, not someone you have to pay to have sex with you.

But, that's just me. Of course, to each his own.

Exactly.
 
Yeah, I think I'll pass on the hooker idea since I'm in agreement with J. Allen here.

I'm not saying that I hope it's some kind of mystical, transcedent experience that I'll discover on my wedding night or anything. But, I would like it to mean something.

And besides, it's not like I'm talking just about having sex here. I do want to lose my virginity, but I also want all the rest that comes with a relationship.
 
Do keep in mind that it's unhealthy to have your happiness solely hinge on having a relationship. I'm not in a relationship but I'm still quite content (well, most of the time but when I'm not has little to do with a relationship).
 
Do keep in mind that it's unhealthy to have your happiness solely hinge on having a relationship. I'm not in a relationship but I'm still quite content (well, most of the time but when I'm not has little to do with a relationship).

People are wired differently. What works for one person may not work for another. There are people who are asexual who could live quite contentedly their whole lives without ever experiencing sex. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like that idea applied to yourself, just as I wouldn't, just as Shran wouldn't. It's not simply that a relationship makes the difference between being happy and unhappy, but it certainly helps heal one of the most fundamental needs of most human beings.
 
Do keep in mind that it's unhealthy to have your happiness solely hinge on having a relationship. I'm not in a relationship but I'm still quite content (well, most of the time but when I'm not has little to do with a relationship).

People are wired differently. What works for one person may not work for another. There are people who are asexual who could live quite contentedly their whole lives without ever experiencing sex. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like that idea applied to yourself, just as I wouldn't, just as Shran wouldn't. It's not simply that a relationship makes the difference between being happy and unhappy, but it certainly helps heal one of the most fundamental needs of most human beings.

True but if you're not happy with yourself then you're not really healthy enough to be in a relationship.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top