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I Hate Myself

... how did Kool-aid come into the discussion? Oh well...

Eventually, Michael Myers, there's probably going to be a point when you'll be forced to interact with women and you'll find that it isn't so bad as you thought/feared. They're just people, like all the rest of us.

Whenever you're afraid to talk to women, just say something that could be applied generally- like, "Where were you born?" or something. Of course, I'm talking about social situations and not just ordering coffee :lol:. It's my best guess, never having even heard of this sort of problem before, that as the conversation deepens you'll "forget" to be afraid.

At least, something similar has happened whenever I've had to deal with a phobia.
 
itisnotlogical, I think that is one thing that makes this issue so hard to talk about, that most people don't understand. Flirting, dating, having relationships seems to come naturally to most people. It's a basic desire for almost everyone, and when it's not fulfilled it can really hurt. Add on a sense of powerlessness to do anything about it, a sense of inferiority to those who don't have this problem, and a sense of shame, that you have to hide it from others, and it can become almost unbearable.
 
itisnotlogical, I think that is one thing that makes this issue so hard to talk about, that most people don't understand. Flirting, dating, having relationships seems to come naturally to most people. It's a basic desire for almost everyone, and when it's not fulfilled it can really hurt. Add on a sense of powerlessness to do anything about it, a sense of inferiority to those who don't have this problem, and a sense of shame, that you have to hide it from others, and it can become almost unbearable.

Actually I think for a lot of people here some of those things haven't come naturally or they've had to work at it a bit. And then you feel like "Well I had to work at it, but it's possible, so others should be able to as well." Personally I feel like I've stumbled into the few romantic relationships I've had and if I hadn't stuck with the same guy, I have no idea what I'd be like. I can't imagine what it's like to be out there, flirting, trying to get to know someone and just putting yourself out there. It's much easier to talk to people when you don't feel you have anything on the line.

Anyway back to my original point. I've noticed that a lot of people who have gone through a similar experience (or think they have) in regards to dating can actually be less sympathetic once they've conquered their own issues. This sort of thing actually generalizes to other topics as well.
 
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