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Grade: Roger Moore's James Bond movies

As for the Roger Moore era, it was eclectic bunch to be sure -- James Bond... IN SPACE! -- I don't feel as if there were any real clunkers in there, although some of the films were definitely better than others. It was fun.


I enjoyed Moore's run from "Live and Let Die" to "Moonraker," mostly because I was about nine to fourteen years old during that run. I didn't care for the ones I saw after that, especially given how old looking Moore had gotten and to this day have never seen the one with Walken and Jones.
 
My rough personal ranking of Moore Bond films:
  • The Spy Who Loved Me.
  • For Your Eyes Only.
  • Moonraker
  • Live And Let Die (tie) Octopussy
  • The Man With The Golden Gun.
  • A View To A Kill.
Roger Moore certainly hit the wall hard and a little stiff by his last installment (before the era of personal trainers and diet plan). But all his films are still very rewatchable. Keanu Reeves at a similar age looks like a school boy in comparison....
 
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Oh, and I keep forgetting to grade these damned films...

Live and Let Die — C-
It wasn't great, but it wasn't horrible either. Jane Seymour was great, Yaphet Kotto was only so-so, and Geoffrey Holder was the bomb. Great song by Paul McCartney and Wings; the score by George Martin was okay. Of the non-Barry composers they've used before David Arnold joined up, Martin's score remains the least dated. And goddamn, I hate Clifton James.

The Man with the Golden Gun — D-
Awful, awful, awful. The only redeeming thing in this film is Christopher Lee. They did an awesome car jump and ruin it with Clifton James (again! oy!) and a slide whistle. I've already sounded off on Bond and the schoolgirls, but if that wasn't embarrassing enough, there's all the shit with friggin' Tattoo. I half expected him to shout "De plane, boss, de plane!" when Bond landed at Scaramanga's island. The energy crisis stuff is dated, and Mary Goodnight is possibly the worst Bond Girl ever. And as the final insult, Moore defeats Scaramanga by impersonating his own wax dummy. If ever there was a moment that summed up Moore's tenure, this was it. Well, that and the clown suit in Octopussy.

The Spy Who Loved Me
— A-
Now this is more like it. Yeah, Stromberg is basically a poor man's Blofeld, but this film is so much fun... Jaws is totally badass, there's some spectacular location work in Egypt, and Moore finally finds a balance between his attempts to be too Sean Connery in the first two films, and his excessive silliness in the last two films. Wet Nellie is still one of my favorite Bond cars. Horribly dated disco score by Marvin Hamlisch.

Moonraker — B-
This one gets a bad rap, although I'm willing to let most of its offenses slide until we get to the climax... FUCKING SPACE MARINES! HAVING A LASER BATTLE! IN SPACE! The pigeon doing a quadruple take is a bit much. And yeah, this is just The Spy Who Loved Me set in space. But it's all good fun, and it's Bernard Lee's last appearance as M, so it'll always have a place in my heart just for that reason.

For Your Eyes Only — A
Nice, taut Cold War thriller in the vein of From Russia With Love. Moore proves he can still deliver despite wrinkles, no gadgets, and a P.O.S. Citroën. The oogie scenes between Rog and Lynn-Holly Johnson are perhaps the first sign that he's getting too old for this shit. Topol is a lot of fun, and the scene between Bond and Gogol — "That's detente, comrade!" — is a great resolution. Perhaps could have done without the antics of Margaret and Denis Thatcher at the end, but hey. And while Bill Conti's score hasn't aged well, it's at least not as obnoxious as Hamlisch's.

Octopussy — C+
God, Roger is getting too old for this shit. At least they paired him up with a Bond Girl closer to his age. He and Maud Adams had great chemistry here. Sadly, despite the great train sequence, in my mind it always pales in comparison to the horror that is Bond in a FUCKING CLOWN SUIT.

A View to a Kill — D+
Roger is way too old for this shit. And so is Lois Maxwell. Their day at Ascot is embarrassing at best. Tanya Roberts can't act her way out of a wet paper bag. Christopher Walken is slightly amusing, but in general the film is very meh. A sad ending to Moore's tenure, but IMO only the middle three are worth repeat viewings.
I stand by (almost) everything I said, except I'd upgrade Octopussy to a B-; the whole "Bond in a clown suit" thing doesn't annoy me as much as it did 16 years ago. I also take back my criticism of Yaphet Kotto's performance in LALD, he did some solid work there. The film is still mid, but Kotto certainly wasn't.
 
I have to admit to being shocked that this thread didn't get clanged, especially as we already have an ongoing James Bond movie thread.

I was gonna do the usual "In Before The Lock!" post but, well, it's not locking. :rommie:
As for the Roger Moore era, it was eclectic bunch to be sure -- James Bond... IN SPACE! -- I don't feel as if there were any real clunkers in there, although some of the films were definitely better than others. It was fun.
I have a soft spot for a few that most people tend to hate (looking at you Moonraker) but I also don't like some that fans adore.

LIVE: C - Moore is uncomfortable as Bond. He hasn't made it his own and he's also way too fancy compared to Connery. The long overcoat, tight tie and, jeez, black gloves in the Harlem scene is just weird. He comes across as Felix Unger there. Jene Seymour is wonderful, and Yaphet Kotto is great when he's not in the latex Mr. Big mask. But the Fat Albert Balloon death is awful. The boat chase it soo long and there's hardly music to support it. A weak entry point for Roger. Th stupidly long cigars he smokes look ridiculous.

GUN: F: hate this one. Just awful. JW Pepper - The Sequel... Soon Tek-Oh, a great actor on his own, dubbed at odd parts and is the worst and most useless helper ever. Goodnight. Rodney. The slide whistle. Even John Barry phoned it in. Worst theme song until Madonna

SPY: C: overblown, too bland a villain, terrible music. It's a Moore Era YOLT and that wasn't a great movie to remake. Boring AM radio theme song and terrible burlesque version at the end.

MOONRAKER: B- I lose all credibility here, but Moore is great. Totally confident. John Barry gives a stellar score. Shirley Bassey is amazing singing the beautiful theme. Drax is a delicious villain with some of the most quote worthy lines in the run. Holly Goodhead is amazing. Also, nostalgia - this is the first Bond movie I ever saw. In theaters.

Oh and Q's final line is magnificent.

FOR YOUR EYES ONLY: A+ - my favorite Moore Bond by far. Just bloody fantastic. Sheena Easton is so beautiful they put her in the titles. Fantastic song!

OCTOPUSSY: B- weird humor brings it down in spots, but the got the formula just right. Maud Adams looks age appropriate for the love interest, even though the age gap is still kinda wide. Damned cigarettes. Another AM radio song.

VIEW: B I'd rate it higher if Moore didn't look so terrible (age plus plastic surgery) and didn't go "ohhhhhh!" every time he fell or slipped or got whacked in the balls by an antenna. Great villains and action scenes. Probably the best rear projection of the series. The finale is top class. Amazing score and song.
 
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1. TIE- The Spy Who Loved Me (Sir Roger's fav) and For Your Eyes Only
2. The Man With The Golden Gun
3. Octopussy
4. Moonraker
5. Live And Let Die
6. A View To A Kill
 
Actually, overall, I find that of all the Bond films I've seen, the Roger Moore ones are the only ones I really liked. His was a more, ahem, "Saintly" Bond.

Still, my favorite Bond film isn't a Bond film at all. It's Our Man Flint, with James Coburn as Bond caricature Derek Flint. Now that I think about it, that might be why I like the Roger Moore Bond films: they're the closest to Flint. (And for the longest time, I thought the line, "Repeat after me: I am not a pleasure unit" came from a Roger Moore Bond film.)
 
It's funny how all over the place the latest rankings are. It seems that Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only are clearly at the top, Man With the Golden Gun is at the bottom, and everything else is in the middle. Even Moonraker.
 
IIRC, Puzo's script wasn't campy but was way too long. So the producers brought in Robert Benton, David Newman and Leslie Newman. They, in turn, produced the campy script that Mankiewicz was brought in by Donner to rewrite.

Mankiewicz had a gift for comedy. DAF is legit funny. Not strained funny, not mugging for the camera or pigeon double-takes funny, but sharp. Clever. It's probably the most consistently amusing of the Bond's for me. It feels like a send-up or, at the very least a "Star Trek IV" style "let's make it a romp!"

I still laugh when Bond is running through the fake moon landing film set and someone yells "grab him!" and Bond evades the guys in space suits because they're still moving in slow motion!

It's funny how all over the place the latest rankings are. It seems that Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only are clearly at the top, Man With the Golden Gun is at the bottom, and everything else is in the middle. Even Moonraker.

My rankings will change. Ask me again in another 16¼ years.
 
I love Moonraker. It's just the perfect mix of camp, like the Flint films, and spectacle. My folks took me to the theater for Spy and Moonraker and I saw Eyes in college at our campus theater. I'm fondest of the Moore, Lazenby and Connery films.
 
I'm guessing the Connery bonds will be similarly graded shortly, so I'll just lay them out now: C+/A/A/A+/A//B+/D. Repeat it please, for the record.:borg:
 
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Dr No
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
Diamonds Are Forever
Never Say Never Again

What was the 8th?
 
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