Empire Magazine pics!

[ancient]

Arghhh...I seriously dislike this slash shit...

And no it's not because it's gay men slash.I dislike lesbian slash, straight slash whatever
Slash of any kind really.


That's the end of my little rant.Carry on now

Yeah it's just an even more implausible shipper fantasy. I can't stand shippers.

 

[JuanBolio]

I believe it's a viewscreen/window combo.
My guess is that some sort of shield raises (or lowers...) to protect it when the ship engages combat mode.

Unnecessary. Any 23rd century ship-to-ship weapon likely to strike the Enterprise once its shields are down would be likely to vaporize large sections - windows would be irrelevant, other than in the fact that they're terribly prone to letting in EM radiation of all sorts.

That all sounds very logical and on paper I agree with it ... but evidence from TWOK, SFS, and TFF seem to suggest otherwise. ALL of the torp and phaser hits in those films take place very specifically when the shields are down, and even though you'd figure a torp would leave a big hole where the ship was, they seem instead to only leave cigarette burns on the hull.

I agree that for a lot of Trek weapons were extremely underpowered, however I'm not sure if TWOK is the best example of this. During Khan's first attack he was trying to disable, not destroy, and the same seems to be true of Kirk in the later battle in the nebula. We know both phasers and photon torpedoes can be set to different levels of power...

In DS9 we saw a combined Romulan/Cardassian barrage obliterate 27% of a planet's crust with one volley, and later in Sacrifice of Angels we see phaser and photon torpedo strikes destroy huge sections of the hulls of the USS Sitak and the USS Majestic. In TOS the Enterprise was often mentioned as having the power to wipe out all cities and installations on major inhabited worlds.

 

[shapeshifter]

During TOS timeframe wouldn't it be logical to assume Enemy's wouldn't have the slightest idea where the CC is anyway?

Even if they did, isn't there some sort of Rule of Engagement prohibiting shots at the Bridge, instead targeting for weapons or power within the Trek-Verse? Isn't it always just the rouge villains which break that rule? (If Nero is such a rouge then the designers could be in for a hard lesson, perhaps, and that could be the point)

I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud.

 

[JuanBolio]

Well, with the scanners even in TOS, they could lock onto where a starship's bridge was pretty easily, even if they weren't familiar with the design of the ship.

Starfleet, I'm sure, had rules about using deadly force only as a last resort, but we didn't really see Starfleet captains specifically ordering disabling shots until TNG and later. My guess would be that during TOS, the weapons were very powerful but not very refined, resulting in a kill more often than not.

 

[Tiberius Jim]

<snip>

Looks like Quinto's Spock has only one facial expression, doesn't it?

I have an idea that these are from back around the beginning of the year, perhaps at the same time or just after they screen-tested together.

It's somewhat reminiscent of Derek Zoolander mastering the Blue Steel.

Or Flux Capacitor, in some of the picture threads.

Hey! I just caught this...simply uncalled for.

 

[jezor]

I just can't help hearing Lorne Greene shouting:

SHIELD!

{ProfJonathan}

 

[Red Ranger]

You know, it also appears that the classic rank stripes are used in the new movie. Spock has two silver braids on his cuff, which represented commander in TOS. However, we don't know their ranks as yet, so maybe he's a full lieutenant and they've adopted a modern navy rank pattern! -- RR

I'm starting to think that one half-band is for ENS, one full band for LTJG, one and a half for LT, two for LCDR, two and a half for CDR, and three for CPT. Obviously this is just a guess, mainly because I've always disliked that Ensigns didn't have anything to differentiate them from enlisted crewmembers.

Skyhaunter: I also dislike how in TOS the Ensigns had no rank braids. And your scheme is actually similar to the U.S. Navy rank scheme in the early to mid-19th century, because I believe there was no lt. cmdr. rank then, so full captains had only three one-inch braids. As you may recall, the pips in TNG and the other 24th century shows bore more similarity to modern navy ranks, e.g., four solid pips = four sleeve braids. -- RR

 

[M'Sharak]

Or Flux Capacitor, in some of the picture threads.

Hey! I just caught this...simply uncalled for.

Busted!

Only kidding, Flux. It's not the same look at all.

 

[I am not Spock]

JJ Abrams
"For me, the costumes were a microcosm of the entire project, which was how to take something that's kind of silly and make it feel real. But how do you make legitimate those near-primary colour costumes? How do you make legitimate the pointy ears and the bowl haircut? It's ridiculous and as potentially cliched as it gets. How do you watch Galaxy Quest and then go make a Star Trek movie?"

With this attitude, he shouldn't have been let anywhere near Star Trek.

Next time, they need to get Richard Donner.

Agreed. Comments like this tend to make Abrams sound very arrogant. Fans were up in arms when B&B were saying things like this when ENT premiered, yet Abrams gets a 'get out of jail free' card? Werid.

 

[SonicRanger]

With this attitude, he shouldn't have been let anywhere near Star Trek.

Next time, they need to get Richard Donner.

Richard Donner? You've got to be kidding. I'm onto you now.

 

[trevanian]

With this attitude, he shouldn't have been let anywhere near Star Trek.

Next time, they need to get Richard Donner.

Richard Donner? You've got to be kidding. I'm onto you now.

The real question with Donner is: what was the guy's greatest accomplishment, Making SUPERMAN, or getting ANY other gig after THE BANANA SPLITS TV series? (and you can't mention THE OMEN as an accomplishment, it's a wreck, it was ALWAYS a wreck.)

 

[GodThingFormerly]

(and you can't mention THE OMEN as an accomplishment, it's a wreck, it was ALWAYS a wreck.)

The Omen at least got Jerry Goldsmith his (one and only) Oscar.

TGT

 

[trevanian]

(and you can't mention THE OMEN as an accomplishment, it's a wreck, it was ALWAYS a wreck.)

The Omen at least got Jerry Goldsmith his (one and only) Oscar.

TGT

I'm as big a Goldsmith booster as you're likely to find, but even so, I think his OMEN score is very nearly a ripoff (a word I usually only reserve for Horner and Horner-like decomposers) of John Barry's wonderful THE LION IN WINTER.

They owed JG for PATTON and THE WIND & THE LION and probably THE BLUE MAX and PLANET OF THE APES, and later on he probably should have won for TMP as well.

 

[Red Ranger]

All I want is to see Pine wear a green wraparound version of the uniform top at the end. Then all will be right with the world! -- RR

 

[roguephoenix]

It's the freakin 23rd century guys. If they have warp drive and transporter technology, I think it's also safe to assume they have the technology to switch a clear window into a viewscreen whenever they want. lol

plus the fact that the evidence is already on that picture with the floating touch screen controls over to the side, one saying B4 even.

 

[Timo]

The evidence we are lacking is the one that establishes the ability of people outside to see in through this thing. Until we get that, this isn't a window yet. It could still be a simple TV screen, with no corresponding opening on the outer surface.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Therin of Andor]

Would it really have killed them to put Kirk in a gold uniform for the promotional pics?

The pic was deliberately staged that way to frustrate you. Ditto Spock not being in the group shot.

We wanted people to yearn to anticipate this film. So the trick works.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

JJ Abrams
"For me, the costumes were a microcosm of the entire project, which was how to take something that's kind of silly and make it feel real. But how do you make legitimate those near-primary colour costumes? How do you make legitimate the pointy ears and the bowl haircut? It's ridiculous and as potentially cliched as it gets. How do you watch Galaxy Quest and then go make a Star Trek movie?"

With this attitude, he shouldn't have been let anywhere near Star Trek.

Next time, they need to get Richard Donner.

Agreed. Comments like this tend to make Abrams sound very arrogant. Fans were up in arms when B&B were saying things like this when ENT premiered, yet Abrams gets a 'get out of jail free' card? Werid.

And he apparently considers Star Wars--which is downright juvenile compared to Star Trek, which is itself adolescent--the standard to which he should aspire. I could see this kind of talk coming from someone who seeks to emulate the giants of litSF--the Stanislaw Lems, the Frank Herberts, the Arthur C. Clarkes, the Kim Stanley Robinsons or William Gibsons--but from this guy? Looks like the chimps are winding up for the pitch. I suggest we duck.

 

[GodThingFormerly]

And he apparently considers Star Wars--which is downright juvenile compared to Star Trek, which is itself adolescent--the standard to which he should aspire.

Gene Roddenberry and Robert Wise were quite open about their MediaSF inspiration when the latter signed on to direct ST:TMP:

Their reach may have to a certain extent exceeded their grasp, but in the immediate terrible aftermath of the Star Wars disaster Roddenberry & Wise at the very least attempted to keep Star Trek in contact with its conceptual and stylistic roots.

TGT

 

[ROBE]

The rank system was actually amended for ST:TMP. They did away with the Lt(Jg) rank and gave ensigns the broken gold stripe, they also gave CPOs square and POs triangle insignia.
After this they redesigned the uniforms and insignia and had proper rank insignia for officers and ratings.