Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by The Habs Fan, Mar 2, 2023.
Thankfully. unfortunately we have another season. But only 10 more eps so thankfully no more.
But my point is, I haven’t seen enough of it to make any kind of judgement on whether it’s interesting or not.
It's as interesting as the writers can make it.. Sadly this crop of writers ... Not so much.. Maybe another set could do better.
Whether any setting is interesting or not depends upon the skill of the writer at creating compelling plots and character arcs, not the settings themselves.
That said, I think Trek fans have made it clear what they want: Legacy characters, either recast (like in SNW) or back decades later (like Picard Season 3).
I simply don't think any of the Discovery characters are popular enough to warrant a spinoff series, particularly since SNW was already spun off, and Michelle Yeoh is...somewhere, at some other point in time.
Speak for yourself.
I'm not speaking for me. I'm just saying if you look what has gotten rave reviews, it's SNW and (so far) Picard Season 3, which are much fanwankier than Discovery.
This is a longstanding issue in Trek fandom. People claim they don't want fanwank, but invariably the fanwankiest of stuff is the best received, while original ideas are either divisive or have a tepid response.
And I think that also speaks to your first point: it’s the writing more than anything. If the Discovery characters had been written in interesting and compelling ways, then maybe there’s a good chance we’ll see them again.
Then it's the majority of the fans, not all fans.
More's the pity.
They're going to keep Legacy Characters going as long as the TNG, DS9, and VOY casts are alive and still able to act. Plus they've uncorked the bottle and won't put the genie back in. After two decades of prequels and reboots, they won't cut themselves off from that backlog of characters and stories again.
They'll also never completely sever ties with TOS and TNG because those are still the Big Two Star Trek Series, like it or not. That's what it is.
@eschaton is right. Those are the hard, cold facts.
It's also why I have to distance myself from other PIC Season 3 fans. It actually is my favorite season of Picard, but -- unlike them -- I liked the first two seasons. Especially the first. So it's a tricky spot for me to be in with that crowd.
Part of me is very sad at this news. But i'm also excited to see what comes next for the trek universe. Paramount is no doubt throwing money at Michelle yeoh for section 31 and we're absolutely getting a seven of nine series.
But they don't have money to just throw around.
You Turds are already yelling CANCELLED .. Ugh
They don't have money to throw around and Michelle Yeoh won't come cheap. As much as I want Section 31 I do not see that in the near future.
I doubt we're going to get two new live action series. The major reason Discovery is ending is financial. Not only is Discovery a costly show to make, it has been on the air for five seasons (every year a show is on the air, it costs more money due to increased salaries and other expenses). Streamers are cutting back on productions & P+'s most watched series presently are not Star Trek shows: though Trek still remains a major player on the platform.
With Picard & Discovery ending, I think it's likely we'll get one new live action show commissioned. I think P+ will likely be looking at what the fans want and my hunch is that is a series set in the 25th century. But Michelle Yeoh is a major player right now and if they still have a contract with her, they might want to capitalized on that.
"I don't like it so it's not real" is not how canon works. Singing space hippies? Still canon. Scottish sex candle? Still canon. Move along home? Still canon. Warp 10 lizards? Still canon. Riker and Troi barging into the Enterprise finale? Still canon.
Yup. Follow the money.
that's a shame but not unexpected with all the streaming ''compression'' we've seen lately oh well shows getting more than 3 season is pretty good these day still i hope the ending won't be on the level of ''these are the voyages''
nah let calypso be a standalone
it's been nearly 7 years give it up lol
Discovery certainly had the roughest row to hoe, being the first one and suffering through multiple leadership swaps. I haven't always liked it, (quite the opposite sometimes!) but I respect that they kept trying to make it work. Five years is respectable, even if they only had just over two "old seasons" worth of episodes. One year longer than ENT, but far fewer eps.
Because they want to reduce costs AND start stretching out produced content that they have over a longer period. The plan that they went with - having a new episode available every week over a year is over. The shareholders want to start seeing Black (profit) and not Red in the Streaming ledgers.
And Paramount+ isn't the only streamer facing this. They're ALL start to look at cost vs return and most are saying their spending too much on content and that there's a glut of content, so they're all adjust in an attempt to generate profit and lessen what they see as 'too much content'.
TLDR - the days of lots of content for a reasonable price is gone, Streaming is gonna become like cable, except you'll need your own decent internet connection and streaming device/stream capable HDTV that you maintain and pay for.
It probably won't be, since they didn't even know it would be the last episode until now.
Really, all the season finales have ended as if they could've been a series finale. But they always left tiny little doors open. I'm guessing they're going to take care of those doors so nothing's left hanging. This series isn't TNG, so I'm not expecting them to come back to right any wrongs 20 years later.
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