Concerns about the new ST

[wayoung]

Give me all the interspecies sex you can throw at me - Human/Vulcan, Human/Klingon, Klingon/Trill - Hell, I even want incestuous alien threeway sex - like two twin cat women having a threesome with a human - That stuff is HOT!

BUT don't you dare show two people of the same species who are of the same gender in a relationship. That's unnatural! Beware the gayz and there agenda!

 

[JWPlatt]

There are a lot of unfulfilled percentages of populations represented in anything. How do you determine which get attention? Populism? Straws? The loudest voice?

 

[Greg Cox]

I remember when Batwoman was rebooted as a lesbian--and some comic-book fans suddenly decided that a hero's sexuality was completely irrelevant and had no business being spelled out in a comic book anyway. "Why do we even have to know about her love life? Why can't she just fight crime and stuff?"

Never mind Lois Lane, Catwoman, Steve Trevor, Reed and Sue, Mary Jane Watson, and the fact that comic-book heroes have had love interests for as long as there have been comic books. That's perfectly cool, apparently, but when Batwoman gets a girlfriend . .. suddenly, "romance has no place in comic books! It's an agenda!"

The double standard was pretty jaw-dropping (says the guy who novelized that storyline).

 

[uniderth]

Yet still no polygamous human characters. *sigh*

Actually, my biggest concern is the race car space ships and the hints and more graphic violence.

 

[TheSeeker]

Yet still no polygamous human characters. *sigh*

Did you ever watch Caprica?

 

[uniderth]

Did you ever watch Caprica?

Nope.

 

[fireproof78]

There are a lot of unfulfilled percentages of populations represented in anything. How do you determine which get attention? Populism? Straws? The loudest voice?

Percentages.

 

[Nerys Myk]

you said trek shows are not good after three or four seasons? I disagree.

No, I said they have three or four good seasons. That could be 3-7 or 2-5 or 1-4. Heck it could be 1, 3, 5 and 7.

 

[borgboy]

Did you ever watch Caprica?

SPOILER

There are polygamous people on Caprica.

 

[TheSeeker]

^Also a good representation of a gay couple.

 

[AdmiralBruno]

Caprica was boring. Nothing like BSG

 

[Tosk]

Lots of things are nothing like BSG.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I heard once that Caprica started out as a completely standalone show that had no connections to BSG, but was hastily rewritten into that universe at the last minute. Any truth to that?

 

[fireproof78]

Lots of things are nothing like BSG.

Good.

 

[jamestyler]

I heard once that Caprica started out as a completely standalone show that had no connections to BSG, but was hastily rewritten into that universe at the last minute. Any truth to that?

If memory serves - Remi Aubuchon had a film concept based on AI. It was turned down but Universal felt the BSG team would be interested in that take on the subject. A meeting was arranged and the concept developed from there.

 

[Jedman67]

13 episodes works for me as they can dump the filler crap--look at the sheer awesomeness that is/was "Firefly"!

Firefly isn't all it's cracked up to be. Sure it had some great moments, and it's overall story was pretty good. But it also had some real crap in it. YMMV

Give me all the interspecies sex you can throw at me - Human/Vulcan, Human/Klingon, Klingon/Trill - Hell, I even want incestuous alien threeway sex - like two twin cat women having a threesome with a human - That stuff is HOT!

BUT don't you dare show two people of the same species who are of the same gender in a relationship. That's unnatural! Beware the gayz and there agenda!

There were a couple of star trek (excelsior?) novels that had an alien officer who was dual-sexual i.e. both male and female. It was a little strange.
All else being equal, I think star trek should be inclusive of LGBT, I also don't think it should pander. Tucker Travis was quite awful as ENT's "token black guy". OTOH no one blinked about TNG's chief engineer being black, Geordi was Geordi. Same for Sisko on DS9 - Avery Brooks fit the role, so the commander of DS9 was black - it was completely irrelevant from a PC perspective. It was great that they were able to expand his background a little in Homefront, show his southern roots, etc

 

[borgboy]

Burgoyne is the dual sexed character in Peter Davidson's excellent New Frontier series (the starship is Excalibur).
Nobody wants a token. All the characters should be well developed, and I have faith in Brian Fuller from the excellent work he's done in other shows that every character will be well developed and interesting.
But after fifty years of only heterosexual characters with an average of five to three (or less) male to female lead characters, the only group Trek has pandered to is straight men.

 

[T'Arwen]

All else being equal, I think star trek should be inclusive of LGBT, I also don't think it should pander. Tucker was quite awful as ENT's "token black guy". OTOH no one blinked about TNG's chief engineer being black, Geordi was Geordi. Same for Sisko on DS9 - Avery Brooks fit the role, so the commander of DS9 was black - it was completely irrelevant from a PC perspective. It was great that they were able to expand his background a little in Homefront, show his southern roots, etc

Huh? Tucker was black?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Huh? Tucker was black?

Yeah, Tucker was the token redneck.
Mayweather was just poorly cast and poorly written. His blackness was as irrelevant as LaForge's.

 

[TwoJakes]

Burgoyne is the dual sexed character

Do you mean they're a hermaphrodite, or something different?