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Spoilers Canon, Continuity, and Pike's Accident

Both Season 2 trailers have had footage from the episode spliced in. Any shots of Pike in the furry coat.

But this is the several month old clip I was talking about
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I haven't seen this before, haven't watched every trailer they put out for Season 2. I wonder if the Kalarans are supposed to be the Kalar mentioned in the Cage? Pike also seems way too calm for me in this trailer considering he's returning to the planet that pretty much caused him to have a partial mental breakdown in the Cage, but maybe the full episode will shed light on this.

Also I wondered if the full on Vulcan bigotry shown by alt-universe Ortegas in the season finale is going to be followed up on and it does seem she's showing some tension (as in the bad kind, not romantic kind) with Spock in this trailer...
 
Kirk: I took over the Enterprise from him. Spock served with him for several years.
Spock: Eleven years, four months, five days.

Obviously the above from the Menagerie was written over 50 years ago, but now it's hard not to automatically think when watching the scene that this is blatant in-show advertising for Strange New Worlds. :p
 
The new episode (SNW S2E3) suggests that
the eugenics wars were supposed to happen in the 90s, as said in TOS and WOK, but the timeline was already changed in SNW to have it happen later. That would mean that SNW and TOS/WOK are in different timelines. Might also make Disco separate from TOS/WOK, since it's apparently in the same timeline as SNW. Perhaps TMP was in the TOS timeline, and 2-4 were not, and that's why the TVH bridge was so different from the TFF bridge, which is in the TOS timeline again :rofl:
. Unless she was lying or confused :D
 
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The "multiverse" is a lazy, unimaginative option.

I vote "yes."

No.


The multiverse quite literally a tool (which is inherently only as effective as its user) and frankly the only one that could work for the most fans at this point.

If you're going to keep mining the past, you can't keep going SAME TIMELINE SAME TIMELINE! I mean you can, but you experience diminishing returns on investment.
 
If you're going to keep mining the past, you can't keep going SAME TIMELINE SAME TIMELINE! I mean you can, but you experience diminishing returns on investment.
SNW seems to be showing that people want to see this past again and again and again. At least enough to keep going back to the well.

The Multiverse is an option. It to me is the laziest option, but Trek writers routinely try to have their cake and eat it too.
 
The canon discussions here are going to get worse, not better. Strange New Worlds, at least in regards to every episode after "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" is now definitively stated to be a different timeline from TOS. When Peck Spock and Wesley Kirk meet in the future, there's going to be people saying, "This isn't how Kirk and Spock really met because the show's already an alternate timeline from TOS". And so on.
 
The canon discussions here are going to get worse, not better. Strange New Worlds, at least in regards to every episode after "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" is now definitively stated to be a different timeline from TOS. When Peck Spock and Wesley Kirk meet in the future, there's going to be people saying, "This isn't how Kirk and Spock really met because the show's already an alternate timeline from TOS". And so on.
Which means they can kiss which will make Tumblr very happy.
 
I'm far from convinced by this notion of the timeline repairing itself. If WW2 actually started in 1959, for example, then it would obviously have been a very different conflict. The technology would be more advanced, the national leaders, the economics etc would all be different. Germany, Italy, Britain, France and Japan might all be allies by the 1960s and eradicate the Soviet Union. Russia is devastated and never becomes a major global power again - meaning the threat of WW3 over Ukraine never materialises. Delaying a major global event by 20 years doesn't mean history repeats itself in a precise fashion except 20 years later. There are just so many different variables in effect with this adjustment that the course of world history must develop in a radically changed way. Idk if the theory is that WW3 is just so destructive that it has an equalising effect on historical progress but I just don't think that's a credible idea. WW3 version 2 would be different, the survivors would be different, what those survivors do would be different - leading to a different future.
 
DTI novels introduced the concept of a self-correcting timeline to Trek.

Perhaps there is no objective past and future. Each moment happens. The timeline is water in a river running down the most efficient path to the ocean. We can observe the river at a specific point but it it is fresh water rushing by, following the existing path.
 
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