Biggest Star Wars Facepalm

[Rarewolf]

I don't think Anakin got lucky, I don't think any such thing as luck in the Star Wars universe. Anakin used the Force without realizing it and Luke did the same thing. Even Han told him that shot was one in a million.

Luke did realize it though. He was deliberately trying to do exactly what the Obi-wan voice in his head told him to. How could he do that without realizing it.

I don't remember if Qui-gon dies before or after the ship is destroyed, but if it was before or was changed to be before we could have had the same sort of scene with Qui-gon telling Anakin to use the force. It's like poetry. They sort of rhyme.

Qui-Gon is fatally wounded at that point, but sitll alive.

The thing with luck though, is R2 is lucky. If Jar-Jar hadn't delayed him on his way to fix the ship, he'd have been quicker up the shoot, probably shot off with the other droids.

Anakin's control of the fighter is at least covered by dialogue - it's remote control. That makes sense to me. Why programme several flight paths when one will do. Follow the leader. R2 disables it, then R2 is flying. If anything R2 should know more about the ship, he's designed for it!

Even Obiwan says flying is for droids.

 

[Brian]

The thing with luck though, is R2 is lucky. If Jar-Jar hadn't delayed him on his way to fix the ship, he'd have been quicker up the shoot, probably shot off with the other droids.

More evidence of Jar-Jar's connection to the Force! He must have sensed that R2 had an important part to play.

His "How wude!" was just a cover.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Anakin's control of the fighter is at least covered by dialogue - it's remote control. That makes sense to me. Why programme several flight paths when one will do. Follow the leader. R2 disables it, then R2 is flying. If anything R2 should know more about the ship, he's designed for it!

Even Obiwan says flying is for droids.

No, Anakin is clearly flying once the autopilot is disengaged. "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick," he says before he turns the stick.

 

[Shazam!]

It's almost too obvious and I almost hate to say it because it in no way offers anything original or interesting but... seriously guys, as soon as Jar Jar Binks appears on screen...

Well, I remember opening day. I wasn't much enjoying the early scenes on the ship... but at least there was some kind of invasion happening...

... but when Jar Jar said 'exsqueeeze me" i lowered in my seat and wanted to die.

Lucas: do NOT quote Wayne's World in a Star Wars film.

The very first shot of him is him looking stupid and waving his arms around like a dickhead.... and it's all downhill from there, if you can believe it.

I remember seeing preview images and thinking that he was going to be the Han Solo of the movie ridiculing what was happening and basically being the audience.

How wrong I was : (

 

[Shazam!]

I enjoy some of the Star Wars novels, hell used to eat the EU up with a spoon. But if you can't convey the story through the film and need to rely on the novelization or other tie-ins to complete it, then I don't see that as a good thing.

 

[Silvercrest]

The thing with luck though, is R2 is lucky. If Jar-Jar hadn't delayed him on his way to fix the ship, he'd have been quicker up the shoot, probably shot off with the other droids.

More evidence of Jar-Jar's connection to the Force! He must have sensed that R2 had an important part to play.

His "How wude!" was just a cover.

Master Jar Jar and Master Yoda should have been together on Dagobah. Each would try to outdo the other in acting like a bigger hick.

"Meesa think wars not make one great!"

"How you get so big, eating food of this kind?"
"Meesa did."
"Shut up! Talking to you I am not!" <thwack>
"Ow! Thatsa hurt!"

 

[Guartho]

I think we've seen that scene before:
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoaQYL8ylms[/yt]

 

[Set Harth]

Lucas: do NOT quote Wayne's World in a Star Wars film.

Or Full House.

 

[SeerSGB]

I enjoy some of the Star Wars novels, hell used to eat the EU up with a spoon. But if you can't convey the story through the film and need to rely on the novelization or other tie-ins to complete it, then I don't see that as a good thing.

Exhibit "A".

If you are relying on comics, novels, and games to fill in the gaps in your story then maybe you need to work on your story. You average movie goer isn't going to spend money on tie in stuff just to get a story that they went to a movie to see

 

[ToddPence]

The ghosts of Obi-Wan, Anikan and Yoda showing up at the party at the end of ROTJ.

 

[General_Phoenix]

The ghosts of Obi-Wan, Anikan and Yoda showing up at the party at the end of ROTJ.

I thought that was fine until they added a young Anakin next to an old Obi-Wan and Yoda.

 

[Admiral Shran]

I enjoy some of the Star Wars novels, hell used to eat the EU up with a spoon. But if you can't convey the story through the film and need to rely on the novelization or other tie-ins to complete it, then I don't see that as a good thing.

Exhibit "A".

If you are relying on comics, novels, and games to fill in the gaps in your story then maybe you need to work on your story. You average movie goer isn't going to spend money on tie in stuff just to get a story that they went to a movie to see

Bingo!

 

[TremblingBluStar]

I thought that was fine until they added a young Anakin next to an old Obi-Wan and Yoda.

Maybe that was the force's way of saying "since you were evil, you get to spend eternity being a pr*ck".

 

[Alidar Jarok]

The ghosts of Obi-Wan, Anikan and Yoda showing up at the party at the end of ROTJ.

I thought that was fine until they added a young Anakin next to an old Obi-Wan and Yoda.

That's a change I like. It doesn't make sense that Force Anakin has hair when his Vader counterpart did not. At least a young version restores him to a more ideal time for him.

 

[sonak]

The ghosts of Obi-Wan, Anikan and Yoda showing up at the party at the end of ROTJ.

I thought that was fine until they added a young Anakin next to an old Obi-Wan and Yoda.

That's a change I like. It doesn't make sense that Force Anakin has hair when his Vader counterpart did not. At least a young version restores him to a more ideal time for him.

strongly disagree. The change to younger Anakin is what makes no sense. Obi-Wan's and Yoda's force ghosts' forms are from when they died, which makes a sort of sense. Why does Anakin get REWARDED by the Force for being a gullible mass murderer while Obi-Wan and Yoda are stuck as old guys in force ghost form?

It seems almost deliberately cruel.

 

[Mysterion]

Leia calling Chewie a "walking carpet". Horribly insensitive at the very best for an often-enslaved race.

Maybe so, but if you'd just been stunned into unconsciousness, imprisoned, tortured, and had your homeworld (along with most everyone you ever knew) blown to bits over the last couple of days, you might just be a bit cranky yourself. And you just might say a couple of things that you maybe didn't really think-out before they left your mouth.

 

[SeerSGB]

I thought that was fine until they added a young Anakin next to an old Obi-Wan and Yoda.

That's a change I like. It doesn't make sense that Force Anakin has hair when his Vader counterpart did not. At least a young version restores him to a more ideal time for him.

strongly disagree. The change to younger Anakin is what makes no sense. Obi-Wan's and Yoda's force ghosts' forms are from when they died, which makes a sort of sense. Why does Anakin get REWARDED by the Force for being a gullible mass murderer while Obi-Wan and Yoda are stuck as old guys in force ghost form?

It seems almost deliberately cruel.

Also feels like it fucks over the whole "Anakin was always in there" vibe of Luke trying to save his father. The ideal that no matter how dark Vader was, at his core he was still Anakin.

The switch out seems to play more to the ideal that when Anakin fell from grace that he and Vader become two separate people.

 

[Admiral Shran]

I thought that was fine until they added a young Anakin next to an old Obi-Wan and Yoda.

Maybe that was the force's way of saying "since you were evil, you get to spend eternity being a pr*ck".

Actually, it was just the Force's way of giving Lucas' kids another chance to see the dreamy Christensen.

 

[Brian]

I always assumed that to stay alive (coherent?) in the Force after death, one has to be in tune with the Living Force. Yoda and Obi-Wan were so right up until their deaths. Anakin was last in tune prior to his fall to the Dark Side, so his Force Ghost representation reflects that. I really doubt the other two are suffering the ravages of age in their spirit form. It's only a representation.

At least it helps keep me from getting ulcers watching that scene.

 

[sonak]

I always assumed that to stay alive (coherent?) in the Force after death, one has to be in tune with the Living Force. Yoda and Obi-Wan were so right up until their deaths. Anakin was last in tune prior to his fall to the Dark Side, so his Force Ghost representation reflects that. I really doubt the other two are suffering the ravages of age in their spirit form. It's only a representation.

At least it helps keep me from getting ulcers watching that scene.

wait, the "redeemed" old Anakin wasn't in tune with the living force? I thought that the whole idea was that he was turning to the Light there?

Plus, young Anakin was such a jerk in the prequels that that's what I think of when I see the Hayden Anakin ghost. The Shaw old ghost seemed like such a nice, friendly guy.

Although, the way the prequels revised the timeline, it would have been incongruous for old Anakin to be as old as he was supposed to be originally.

The original idea I think was for Anakin and Obi-Wan to be contemporaries, but with the establishment of Obi-Wan being like twenty years older, Sebastian Shaw's ghost looks far older than he should be, he should be a guy in early middle age at the point of ROTJ.