Biggest Star Wars Facepalm

[Guartho]

The novels are consistent with the films.

What's Luke's call sign in the attack on the Death Star again?

 

[SeerSGB]

How exactly would he pay for them? You're laying a lot of christian imagery on an essentially alien religion. But even if you insist on doing that, surely the sinful man who repents on his deathbed is forgiven?

We do have the whole "See you in hell" moment from ESB, so there's at a least a concept of "hell".

Or maybe it's because they superimposed someone recognisable on the random actor who played the ghost in the original movie?

I'd buy that if they went to the trouble of putting a digitally aged and scarred CGI version of Hayden's head in the scene where Luke removes the helmet along with the Force ghost at the end. Instead of the half-assed attempt to shoe-horn a PT reference into the end of the movie.

As I said, I wouldn't be surprised if at some point we get a Force ghost of Qui-Gon and Padme tacked on to the end of Jedi.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

The novels are consistent with the films.

What's Luke's call sign in the attack on the Death Star again?

Red 5. No, Blue 5. No wait, Echo 3. No, wrong film. Sand Brat 1. I give up.

 

[RandyS]

ROTJ pretty much already gave him a pass despite a litany of crimes including mass murder, spousal abuse and child murder

Editing out Shaw for Christensen just makes it more apparent

There is an unfilmed scene that takes place after the crazy Ewok party where we see Yoda and Obi-Wan leading Anakin's forceghost to Jedi Hell, where he spends eternity getting his legs and arms chopped off and his torso set on fire while he watches Padme die.

Careful.....If Lucas see this, he might actually put that in the next release.

 

[Klaus]

Well in the Robot Chicken version, Vader was stuck by Jar-Jar's Force ghost after having him spaced for being annoying. That's gotta get you a few aeons off off Purgatory on the basis of time served.

How about the Lego "Tusken Raider Massacre" *ahem* "Tusken Raider Encounter" playset?? That's gotta be a merchandising facepalm of the first magnitude. With swinging lightsaber in case you missed the point, ages 7-12!

Can't wait for their My Lai set w/exclusive Lt. Calley figure!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Can't wait for their My Lai set w/exclusive Lt. Calley figure!

I heard the Nixon & Elliott expansion pack will be in stores by Christmas!

 

[sonak]

What's funny is that I wouldn't be a bit surprised if GL added a very awkward-looking Qui-Gon ghost to that end scene.

If I heard about that I'd just be like "yeah, that sounds like something Lucas would do these days."

 

[SeerSGB]

Well in the Robot Chicken version, Vader was stuck by Jar-Jar's Force ghost after having him spaced for being annoying. That's gotta get you a few aeons off off Purgatory on the basis of time served.

How about the Lego "Tusken Raider Massacre" *ahem* "Tusken Raider Encounter" playset?? That's gotta be a merchandising facepalm of the first magnitude. With swinging lightsaber in case you missed the point, ages 7-12!

Can't wait for their My Lai set w/exclusive Lt. Calley figure!

Cause mass murder makes you a hero kids!

 

[sonak]

Well in the Robot Chicken version, Vader was stuck by Jar-Jar's Force ghost after having him spaced for being annoying. That's gotta get you a few aeons off off Purgatory on the basis of time served.

How about the Lego "Tusken Raider Massacre" *ahem* "Tusken Raider Encounter" playset?? That's gotta be a merchandising facepalm of the first magnitude. With swinging lightsaber in case you missed the point, ages 7-12!

Can't wait for their My Lai set w/exclusive Lt. Calley figure!

Case mass murder makes you a hero kids!

Wait, is that a serious playset?

Why not just have a "Jedi Youngling encounter at the temple" playset?

 

[SeerSGB]

Well in the Robot Chicken version, Vader was stuck by Jar-Jar's Force ghost after having him spaced for being annoying. That's gotta get you a few aeons off off Purgatory on the basis of time served.

How about the Lego "Tusken Raider Massacre" *ahem* "Tusken Raider Encounter" playset?? That's gotta be a merchandising facepalm of the first magnitude. With swinging lightsaber in case you missed the point, ages 7-12!

Can't wait for their My Lai set w/exclusive Lt. Calley figure!

Case mass murder makes you a hero kids!

Wait, is that a serious playset?

Why not just have a "Jedi Youngling encounter at the temple" playset?

Yeppers a real lego set

 

[Klaus]

I walked by it in the store and froze like some one had hit me with a baseball bat... it was one of those great WTF??? moments.

 

[SeerSGB]

I love the faces on the Tusken figures "Duh...what ya' doing?"

But if you want poorly thought out, yeah this is one of those sort of things. It takes a serious (till the "sand speech") and kiddifies it to a laughable level.

 

[Set Harth]

What's Luke's call sign in the attack on the Death Star again?

Changing the subject.

This was about "Average Moviegoer doesn't read the novels". Obviously novel material superseded by film material is not relevant to that issue.

We do have the whole "See you in hell" moment from ESB, so there's at a least a concept of "hell".

...and Han Solo will apparently be there, along with some Rebels?

Probably because of shooting first.

But that doesn't say anything about Force ghosts. Force ghosting is not Jedi heaven, and the OT never said that it was.

 

[Guartho]

Then why bring up the novels at all? I've noticed that you cite the novelizations a lot when people are talking about the OT films. What's up with that?

 

[SeerSGB]

Found this one while researching some stuff for a friend.

EU One: Tantive IV or Not?

The CR70 corvette was created as a way to explain the differences between the Tantive IV as it appeared in Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith as opposed to Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope and other previous appearances. However, the Tantive IV's appearance in Revenge of the Sith was later retconned in the 2010 Star Wars Blueprints: Rebel Edition to be the Sundered Heart. Leland Chee confirmed this as a retcon, citing the difficulty of explaining the differences in appearance between the films.

How hard is it to explain, really? 20 years pass, the ship gets a retrofit. See, no need to over think a simple thing. Which isn't a issue for anyone but the core fans, seeing as the average audience member is going to think "Hey that's Leia's ship from the first movie!"

 

[Set Harth]

Some audience members thought "hey, that thing looks completely different".

But they weren't average enough.

 

[SeerSGB]

I'm sure Lucas will fix ANH by swapping out the Tantive IV model with the Episode "not" Tantive IV when he does the next super-duper-deluxe-mega-ultra-special of specilist Editions.

 

[Set Harth]

John Knoll does some serious hedging on this point in the DVD commentary. He says something like "it's either the same ship or from the same factory". Not exactly a ringing endorsement for the ROTS ship actually being the Tantive IV.

 

[SeerSGB]

John Knoll does some serious hedging on this point in the DVD commentary. He says something like "it's either the same ship or from the same factory". Not exactly a ringing endorsement for the ROTS ship actually being the Tantive IV.

It's a none problem. Simple explanation: The Tantive IV got a retrofit. There, done in less than a paragraph.

But they went the long way around and created a whole new ship and ship class then tie it back to a ship in a game that looks less like it that it does the ANH Tantive and still had to come up with the retrofit story.

That's a common problem, IMO, with the keepers of SW canon: they go out of their way to make the pieces fit and in doing so over complicate simple things

 

[Admiral Shran]

Well in the Robot Chicken version, Vader was stuck by Jar-Jar's Force ghost after having him spaced for being annoying. That's gotta get you a few aeons off off Purgatory on the basis of time served.

How about the Lego "Tusken Raider Massacre" *ahem* "Tusken Raider Encounter" playset?? That's gotta be a merchandising facepalm of the first magnitude. With swinging lightsaber in case you missed the point, ages 7-12!

Can't wait for their My Lai set w/exclusive Lt. Calley figure!

Case mass murder makes you a hero kids!

Wait, is that a serious playset?

Why not just have a "Jedi Youngling encounter at the temple" playset?

Dammit people! Quit giving him ideas!