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Biggest Star Wars Facepalm
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Yeah, that's on my list. I can enjoy pretty much every other moment in The Phantom Menace, but I was 12 when I saw it and thought that was stupid then.
Yeah, I'll agree with that. Would have been much better.
The above, plus two other things: 1) They needed to establish Anakin as an existing podrace champion. As portrayed, having never even finished a race, much less won one, it's hard to take seriously that he's any kind of pilot. And 2) They needed to establish how the Force can work through people and guide their actions. Plus acknowledge that's what was happening during his Trade Federation run. As it is, the viewer just seems to be expected to already know how the Force works. That's one reason why this movie would not be a good way to introduce someone to the series.
Qui-Gon does tell him to trust his insticts before he races. Anakin's mother could at least sense he had unusual abilites, and Anakin boasts that no other human even can race.
Whereas (a much older) Luke is far more normal under acheiving individual until he gets caught up in events. Not that his aunt and uncle would have encouraged him.
So Anakin has achieved more before he saves the day than Luke had before he destroys the Death Star. Luke was following a plan though, rather than get lucky.
Whereas (a much older) Luke is far more normal under acheiving individual until he gets caught up in events. Not that his aunt and uncle would have encouraged him.
So Anakin has achieved more before he saves the day than Luke had before he destroys the Death Star. Luke was following a plan though, rather than get lucky.
Well, that would kill some of the drama. The point was Qui-Gon had faith in him even though it wasn't a smart move at that point.
Well, they said he could see into the future because of the force.
Second, I don't think the prequels were ever designed to introduce someone to the series. I generally view it this way. You need to watch them 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Revealing that Darth Vader is Luke's father or that Obiwan is lying before the original points they were revealed undercuts some energy of those scenes. Plus, the Luke/Leia thing...
I don't think Anakin got lucky, I don't think any such thing as luck in the Star Wars universe. Anakin used the Force without realizing it and Luke did the same thing. Even Han told him that shot was one in a million.
Luke did realize it though. He was deliberately trying to do exactly what the Obi-wan voice in his head told him to. How could he do that without realizing it.
I don't remember if Qui-gon dies before or after the ship is destroyed, but if it was before or was changed to be before we could have had the same sort of scene with Qui-gon telling Anakin to use the force. It's like poetry. They sort of rhyme.
Ok, I don't like that, but seeing Anakin going into some sort of trance and intuitively piloting down the hangar bay and shooting in just the right spot would've worked for me much better than Anakin's 3-stooges style accidental victory.
I don't remember if Qui-gon dies before or after the ship is destroyed, but if it was before or was changed to be before we could have had the same sort of scene with Qui-gon telling Anakin to use the force. It's like poetry. They sort of rhyme.
Ok, I don't like that, but seeing Anakin going into some sort of trance and intuitively piloting down the hangar bay and shooting in just the right spot would've worked for me much better than Anakin's 3-stooges style accidental victory.
The EU = One big face palm.
I enjoy some of the Star Wars novels, hell used to eat the EU up with a spoon. But if you can't convey the story through the film and need to rely on the novelization or other tie-ins to complete it, then I don't see that as a good thing.
I always assumed the Force was guiding (or at the least being unknowingly used by) Anakin during the climactic battle.
I also assumed that Jar-Jar had some connection with the Force. The things he accidentally accomplished during the battle droid fight could not simply be dumb luck.
And Qui-Gon had a feeling about both of them. I guess I just accepted that as guidance from the Force, and an implication that they were both connected in some way.
I also assumed that Jar-Jar had some connection with the Force. The things he accidentally accomplished during the battle droid fight could not simply be dumb luck.
And Qui-Gon had a feeling about both of them. I guess I just accepted that as guidance from the Force, and an implication that they were both connected in some way.
The novelization of ROTS is leagues superior to the source material. It's probably one of the best pieces written about Anakin and certainly one of the best EU books ever.
Jar Jar is strong with the Forrest Gump side.
Right, and in ANH it is pretty much established that the controls for space fighters aren't much different than speeders. It would have made a lot more sense to do this.
I agree with this. It's been years since I read it, and I still remember that awesome scene in Palpy's office with Anakin where he tells him that he can get him anything he wants, and that chapter on Count Dooku and his motivations.
Good stuff.
Anyone metioned Waru yet?
Cause I just went there.
Cause I just went there.
The EU encompasses Waru, so yeah, it's been mentioned. Thanks for going there, though. 
Well, I remember opening day. I wasn't much enjoying the early scenes on the ship... but at least there was some kind of invasion happening...
... but when Jar Jar said 'exsqueeeze me" i lowered in my seat and wanted to die.
Lucas: do NOT quote Wayne's World in a Star Wars film.
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