Arrow - The Final Season
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The other way around. If you think about how much time passed in the last few minutes of Season 7 they should really be in 2020 already...
I don't think it can be, because The Flash has been going in roughly real time and saying the Crisis in December 2019 was just weeks away. Then again, the Arrow plots so far seem to be following pretty directly on each other with no breaks between them, so maybe less than a week has passed in-story since the season premiere. They could be taking place in December already.
I wonder what life after Crisis will be like. They have this big arc leading to this big event, but the finale will be wrapping up the series that started this entire thing in the first place. I get this feeling that the finale will be kind of subdued because the big stuff will happen during the crossover, but I hope it packs a punch or two.
Does Barry know about the Time Bureau?
That's "his" tax dollars at work.
Is Barry, the owner of Star labs, a billionaire, who pays taxes like a billionaire, while still pretending that his CCPD paycheck is relevant to him as anything more than an emergency supply of toilet paper?
That's "his" tax dollars at work.
Is Barry, the owner of Star labs, a billionaire, who pays taxes like a billionaire, while still pretending that his CCPD paycheck is relevant to him as anything more than an emergency supply of toilet paper?
The Arrowverse has never been good at explaining its use of money. Just look at Oliver going from billionaire to broke just due to a hostile take-over of his publicly-traded company...which makes precisely zero sense. A) There is zero chance that a billionaire would have all of his money invested in just one company. B) Losing majority controls means very little for the value of the family's stocks. Sure, there could have been a temporary drop in stock value due to the machinations of Isabel, but they could have just waited to sell their stock until after new management (Ray Palmer) took over and stabilized the company.
As for Barry: even putting aside whatever the Reverse Flash left him (which may or may not be directly a gift to Barry but could in fact just have made him trustee of some Star Labs' property/patents), Barry has access to technology from the entire multiverse (plus whatever Cisco invents on a daily basis). There is no reason why they should be strapped for cash.
In the comics Chunk becomes super rich by getting rid of things. He starts small with old cars and mother in laws, but moves on to atomic waste and then he is set for life.
If Barry dies, then Iris gets Star Labs, even though Wells said that Sisko was like as son to him. As a billionaire, the shape of her dinky vanity project news website is going to change expansively.
If Barry dies, then Iris gets Star Labs, even though Wells said that Sisko was like as son to him. As a billionaire, the shape of her dinky vanity project news website is going to change expansively.
I wonder what financial state STAR labs is in... Surely they have multiple lawsuits that when measured against any patent profits ans the cost of maintaining, and even repairing, will mean razor thin profits.
I mean, they can barely afford security
I mean, they can barely afford security
I first started reading The Flash comics in 1990, 1991. Do to the tv series. But Barry was long dead in the comics so there was little connection to show. But I do have found memories of those comics.
Elongated Man and Chunk were big part of the supporting cast than. I was thrilled when Ralph was added he was perfectly cast. In Chunk first episode it took awhile to make a connection to the comic character. But they made a good adjustment for tv.
When they altered the timeline to Pied Piper being an ally, I expected to see more of him. He was one of Wally’s main supporting cast in those days.
Which raises an interesting point. In terms of television - Barry Allen has absorbed most of Wally West’s friends and a lot of his personality. If there was no comics just tv and movies, they probably would just modernize the character. Not change his name and make a whole separate character. It started with tv series by bringing in Tina McGee from Wally’s comics. Plus his speeded up metabolism which required Barry to eat a lot. Justice League cartoon was partly the opposite in being named Wally, but still had Barry’s origin. I think it explains why it was hard to give Wally West a unique personality or purpose on this current show.
Same thing happened with Robin since Tim Drake was introduced. Almost every version of Robin in movies and animation and tv has been Dick Grayson. With his origin but Tim’s costume and personality. If the comics had not made Dick into Nightwing they would have just gradually updated and matured him as Robin over the decades.
Elongated Man and Chunk were big part of the supporting cast than. I was thrilled when Ralph was added he was perfectly cast. In Chunk first episode it took awhile to make a connection to the comic character. But they made a good adjustment for tv.
When they altered the timeline to Pied Piper being an ally, I expected to see more of him. He was one of Wally’s main supporting cast in those days.
Which raises an interesting point. In terms of television - Barry Allen has absorbed most of Wally West’s friends and a lot of his personality. If there was no comics just tv and movies, they probably would just modernize the character. Not change his name and make a whole separate character. It started with tv series by bringing in Tina McGee from Wally’s comics. Plus his speeded up metabolism which required Barry to eat a lot. Justice League cartoon was partly the opposite in being named Wally, but still had Barry’s origin. I think it explains why it was hard to give Wally West a unique personality or purpose on this current show.
Same thing happened with Robin since Tim Drake was introduced. Almost every version of Robin in movies and animation and tv has been Dick Grayson. With his origin but Tim’s costume and personality. If the comics had not made Dick into Nightwing they would have just gradually updated and matured him as Robin over the decades.
I think they established a few years ago that it's funded by the wealth Thawne/Wells left behind and endowed to Barry in "Wells"'s will.
And when The New Batman Adventures introduced Tim Drake, they basically made him Jason Todd. And Superman: TAS's Green Lantern was Kyle Rayner but he had Hal Jordan's costume. Then there was the unaired '90s live-action Justice League pilot where the Green Lantern was Guy Gardner but acted more like Hal or Kyle.
And of course the MCU's Peter Parker borrows a number of traits from Miles Morales.
That's the thing about adapting an ongoing series -- you can amalgamate and distill all the best parts from its entire run. If only one character has used a superhero identity from the start, then you just draw on different eras of that character's development. But if multiple people have used the name, then they can all go into the mix when creating a new version.
That is often why I prefer the superhero adaptations in other media. They can draw on the best. We are long past the point of these characters having a single author or incarnation.
I have no idea what is going on with Supergirl in the comics right now. Ever since she died in the original Crisis it’s been all over the place. I liked Peter David’s run. It’s was basically a new character. With nods to the past. It made total sense to reboot with a new Kara. But have no idea of what her current origin is. Her actual history with Clark is.
Whether I like the current storyline of each season, Melissa Benoist is current definitive version of the character. She is close to her cousin but not dependent on him either. He never really raised her. In the original Silver Age comics he dropped off in an Orphanage!
I have no idea what is going on with Supergirl in the comics right now. Ever since she died in the original Crisis it’s been all over the place. I liked Peter David’s run. It’s was basically a new character. With nods to the past. It made total sense to reboot with a new Kara. But have no idea of what her current origin is. Her actual history with Clark is.
Whether I like the current storyline of each season, Melissa Benoist is current definitive version of the character. She is close to her cousin but not dependent on him either. He never really raised her. In the original Silver Age comics he dropped off in an Orphanage!
Do you think the Monitor is really trying to scuttle Oliver's mission, or is he testing Oliver's team the way he tested the heroes last year to see if the were worthy of trying to save the multiverse?
If so, then Laurel/Black Canary and Roy passed last night and Lyla failed.
I miss Felicity, but if she was around who would be at home protecting baby Mia?
If so, then Laurel/Black Canary and Roy passed last night and Lyla failed.
I miss Felicity, but if she was around who would be at home protecting baby Mia?
I had the same thought about The Monitor testing Laurel, to see if she was trust worthy.
Anatoly has always been one of my favorite characters, so I liked getting to see him one last time.
Oliver having to do deal with exposing William and Mia to the darker elements of his past was a nice storyline for him.
I was happy to see Roy back too.
Anatoly has always been one of my favorite characters, so I liked getting to see him one last time.
Oliver having to do deal with exposing William and Mia to the darker elements of his past was a nice storyline for him.
I was happy to see Roy back too.
Marc Guggenheim said in a Tweet that Green Arrow & The Canaries will be set in 2040. This really surprises me, I had assumed the whole reason Mia and co. came back to the present was so they could have GA&C in the present day.
The Tweet is about half way down the article.
The Tweet is about half way down the article.
I kept expecting Lance to be the Monitor in disguise, since the way Blackthorne was playing the role seemed different from before. I guess maybe he was just playing Lance as more self-assured and content.
Anyway, I'm not a fan of time loop episodes because I hate the repetition, but at least they had Oliver and Laurel catch on quickly. But I could tell even in the first run-through that it was going to be a time loop episode, because of all the seemingly irrelevant details like the game on TV, the fast food conversation, the woman laughing, the lame joke, the spilled drink, etc. Normally a story leaves out details that aren't plot-relevant, so if there's a whole succession of seemingly trivial details one after the other, that's a warning sign that things are about to go Groundhog Day. (And the title "Reset" helped tip me off as well.)
Anyway, I'm not a fan of time loop episodes because I hate the repetition, but at least they had Oliver and Laurel catch on quickly. But I could tell even in the first run-through that it was going to be a time loop episode, because of all the seemingly irrelevant details like the game on TV, the fast food conversation, the woman laughing, the lame joke, the spilled drink, etc. Normally a story leaves out details that aren't plot-relevant, so if there's a whole succession of seemingly trivial details one after the other, that's a warning sign that things are about to go Groundhog Day. (And the title "Reset" helped tip me off as well.)
Lyla's Team Monitor.
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