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animated short treks coming spring 2019

One thing to remember guys is while I don't think this means they're "moving beyond" Discovery, once they have another 2-3 series going, I expect the production/release schedule is going to be much less aggressive. We might start seeing around two years between the release of individual seasons, in order to help stagger the series with the other Trek content.
 
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One thing to remember guys is while I don't think this means they're "moving beyond" Discovery, once they have another 2-3 series going, I expect the production/release schedule is going to be much less aggressive. We might start seeing around two years between the release of individual seasons, in order to help stagger the series with the other Trek content.

That's a possibility. Though, due to Patrick Stewart's age, I hope the Picard Series doesn't have extra-long waits between seasons.
 

Oh no.
This is a bad idea on SO many levels!

  1. Many people care about ST09. NO ONE cared about the destruction of Romulus in that movie! That happened as backstory in an alternate universe of the man story being told that was averted and never happened! Expecting of people (outside the hardcore-Trek-literature-fandom) to even remember that event is a stretch.
  2. The "science" backstory about that event ("supernova threatening to destroy the galaxy?" FTL-shockwaves? NO ONE even noticing that? Fucking red matter? Destroying planets like marbles?) was the worst part of the ST09 movie - the movie overall really was fine. Except that part. Now their throwing out the good part of ST09 (Kirk and Spock), and only keeping the shitty part in the franchise? What the hell?
  3. The Picard show really shouldn't be about war with a familiar alien species again. But they will be ding their riff on that god-awful "fall-of-the-Federation"/"chaos-in-the-universe"-concept that will never die, aren't they?
  4. People that like TNG like the cerebral storytelling. People that like ST09 like the more action-oriented, fun style. Of course there's a BIG overlap - but still - limiting your audience by aiming only at the overlap is a bad idea. They should have started their own concept - from scratch - that should have been first introduced in the Picard show - TO BE ABLE TO WATCH IT WITHOU PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: THere are a LOT of people out there that aren't exactly Trekkies, but liked TNG and would check out Picard returning. Throwing them over the head with THIS amount of backtory right from the start is going to alienate you audience
This is the first time I have the feeling the new Picard show will actually be more like the X-files reboot - confusing and alienating, than something honoring the style and themes of TNG in a modern production.
 
Oh no.
This is a bad idea on SO many levels!

  1. Many people care about ST09. NO ONE cared about the destruction of Romulus in that movie! That happened as backstory in an alternate universe of the man story being told that was averted and never happened! Expecting of people (outside the hardcore-Trek-literature-fandom) to even remember that event is a stretch.
  2. The "science" backstory about that event ("supernova threatening to destroy the galaxy?" FTL-shockwaves? NO ONE even noticing that? Fucking red matter? Destroying planets like marbles?) was the worst part of the ST09 movie - the movie overall really was fine. Except that part. Now their throwing out the good part of ST09 (Kirk and Spock), and only keeping the shitty part in the franchise? What the hell?
  3. The Picard show really shouldn't be about war with a familiar alien species again. But they will be ding their riff on that god-awful "fall-of-the-Federation"/"chaos-in-the-universe"-concept that will never die, aren't they?
  4. People that like TNG like the cerebral storytelling. People that like ST09 like the more action-oriented, fun style. Of course there's a BIG overlap - but still - limiting your audience by aiming only at the overlap is a bad idea. They should have started their own concept - from scratch - that should have been first introduced in the Picard show - TO BE ABLE TO WATCH IT WITHOU PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: THere are a LOT of people out there that aren't exactly Trekkies, but liked TNG and would check out Picard returning. Throwing them over the head with THIS amount of backtory right from the start is going to alienate you audience
This is the first time I have the feeling the new Picard show will actually be more like the X-files reboot - confusing and alienating, than something honoring the style and themes of TNG in a modern production.
Wrong forum to discuss this, but you are so wrong. Destruction of the Romulus is a fact and canon in the Prime universe and needs to be addressed.

Destruction of Romulus did not happen in an alternate universe. It happened in Prime and Spock prevented the expansion of the supernova, but did not undo the whole situation. I don't comment on the plausibility of the supernova. There have been a lot of not so plausible science on Star Trek.
 
Wrong forum to discuss this, but you are so wrong. Destruction of the Romulus is a fact and canon in the Prime universe and needs to be addressed.

Destruction of Romulus did not happen in an alternate universe. It happened in Prime and Spock prevented the expansion of the supernova, but did not undo the whole situation. I don't comment on the plausibility of the supernova. There have been a lot of not so plausible science on Star Trek.
I wonder how much of this will be influenced by STO or if STO will have to completely change it's storyline?
It's still a fairly popular game and brings in a bunch of money for both Perpetual/Cryptic and CBS.

Plus, all this new Trek will no doubt be incorporated into the game.

Fascinating times ahead.
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I might be missing something, but I can't find anything in that Hollywood Reporter article/interview where Kurtzman explicitly says that the next "round" of Short Treks tales are going to be animated.
 
I might be missing something, but I can't find anything in that Hollywood Reporter article/interview where Kurtzman explicitly says that the next "round" of Short Treks tales are going to be animated.

"...Additionally, CBS All Access has ordered two more installments of shortform series Star Trek: Short Treks — both of which will be animated. Both installments will debut in the spring, after Star Trek: Discovery wraps its second season on CBS All Access."

Last part of the second paragraph.
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I wonder how much of this will be influenced by STO or if STO will have to completely change it's storyline?
It's still a fairly popular game and brings in a bunch of money for both Perpetual/Cryptic and CBS.

Plus, all this new Trek will no doubt be incorporated into the game.

Fascinating times ahead.
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STO's history is unique to the game. It's not binding on the rest of Trek canon. It's not even binding on the novelverse, for crying out loud.

The Picard Show might be incorporated in STO, but not the reverse.
 
STO writers have said that they're working with production on the Picard Show and how to integrate it into their game.

Which means they'll get a heads-up on how best to reboot the entire game storyline to match with the new canon.
 
Speaking of STO, since its version of these events connect the Hobus explosion to Iconian tech and there's a good chance they'll want to initially link the two shows, I have to ask again: Who thinks the red starry angel thingys are Iconians? Huh? HUH?!

Many people care about ST09. NO ONE cared about the destruction of Romulus in that movie!
Source?

The "science" backstory about that event ("supernova threatening to destroy the galaxy?" FTL-shockwaves? NO ONE even noticing that?
The STO writers did. If they can come up with something, I'm sure these guys can work it out. But that's assuming the events leading up to the Hobus explosion are even relevant to the story. I doubt they are.

Now their throwing out the good part of ST09 (Kirk and Spock), and only keeping the shitty part in the franchise? What the hell?
daFuq?

The Picard show really shouldn't be about war with a familiar alien species again.
Source?

Throwing them over the head with THIS amount of backtory right from the start is going to alienate you audience
"Picard struggles with the near annihilation of the Romulan civilization - a people he learned to respect and grow close to over the seven-year adventure and one film."

That's way too much exposition for me to handle. :rolleyes:
 

"...Additionally, CBS All Access has ordered two more installments of shortform series Star Trek: Short Treks — both of which will be animated. Both installments will debut in the spring, after Star Trek: Discovery wraps its second season on CBS All Access."

Last part of the second paragraph.
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That is not Alex Kurtzman saying that the new Short Treks will be animated; that is the Hollywood Reporter article writer/interviewer reporter stating that such is the case.
 
That is not Alex Kurtzman saying that the new Short Treks will be animated; that is the Hollywood Reporter article writer/interviewer reporter stating that such is the case.
They wouldn't have said it if they hadn't got it from their interview or CBS.

Who thinks the red starry angel thingys are Iconians? Huh? HUH?!
I don't.

That happened as backstory in an alternate universe of the man story being told that was averted and never happened!
No it didn't, it happened in the Prime Universe. That's why Spock Prime is credited as, Spock Prime.
CBS has already acknowledged that it happened in the Prime Universe long before now. They forced the STO Dev Team have it happen in their Prime Timeline story.
 
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Wrong forum to discuss this, but you are so wrong. Destruction of the Romulus is a fact and canon in the Prime universe and needs to be addressed.

Destruction of Romulus did not happen in an alternate universe. It happened in Prime and Spock prevented the expansion of the supernova, but did not undo the whole situation. I don't comment on the plausibility of the supernova. There have been a lot of not so plausible science on Star Trek.

This is the point where I vehemently have to disagree:
Fans DON'T remember Romulus blowing up - because it never actually happened in the movie!
Seriously, ask anyone who is not deep into Trek literature or online games - they ALL have already forgotten that event! And there is a very simple reason for it: It happened in an alternate timeline of the movie. A future that never happened.

Nero's entire motivation in ST09 is as much based in reality as that of VOY's future Captain Braxton in "Time's End":
Sure, this events happened in his timeline - he has a personal reason to want revenge. But it never happened in the main timeline - the actual timeline depicted in the movie. And especially Neros backstory is waaaay less thouhgt out than that of Cpt. Braxton was on a purely technical or logical level.

Seriously, most people that watch ST09 think it's a straight up prequel to TOS. Only few peple actually realize that it's an alternate timeline - and only for a few thing standing out, like Vulcan blowing up or Khan showing up. But the general concensus for this points is more "reboot" than actually events happening parallel to each other. And really, NO ONE outside the absolute hardest hardcore fanbase hanging out on Internet forums does actually remember the destruction of Romulus even happened!

This is really just Kurtzman not wanting to let go of his personal creation - which I can understand, but is actually detrimental to the storyworld and the universe.
 
It happened in an alternate timeline of the movie.
No it didn't.

And CBS said this long before Kurtzman was in control of the Prime Timeline.

because it never actually happened in the movie!
We see it happen in a Mind Meld flashback with PRIME Spock.

The Picard show really shouldn't be about war with a familiar alien species again.
Nothing in that article implies there will be a war.
 
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I'm a pretty big Trek fan, and I had forgotten they blew up Romulus. They're doing a fairly deep dive here.

My first reaction was that this description diminishes my interest in the Picard show, but I will try to keep an open mind.

That said, tying your new series to a plot point from a 10-year-old movie that set up an alternate timeline strikes me as an odd call. Reminds me of the bizarre decision to tie Superman Returns to the Reeve films from years earlier, and that didn't pan out too well.
 
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That is not Alex Kurtzman saying that the new Short Treks will be animated; that is the Hollywood Reporter article writer/interviewer reporter stating that such is the case.
Which that reporter said is based on facts that Kurtzman told him during an extensive Creative Space interview set to publish Wednesday.

I'm pretty sure the reporter checked his facts before writing up his story, afterall, he's not The Donald.
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