animated short treks coming spring 2019

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by pst, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The article itself contains numerous quotes directly from Kurtzman, but not one of them is directly related, at least as far as I could discern, to the new Short Treks tales in specific being animated.

    And it's the Hollywood Reporter's usual trustworthiness that made the lack of specific comments from Kurtzman in regards to the Short Treks tales being present in the article that made said omission stand out.
     
  2. DaveyNY

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    Well, I'm pretty sure that somebody at CBS would have pointed it out to the reporter if it was incorrect information.
    Plus, having done an "extensive interview" with Kurtzman, I doubt the reporter would have just made shit up.
    :vulcan:
     
  3. DigificWriter

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    ^ Your point is valid; it just struck me as out-of-the-ordinary for a Hollywood Reporter article not to contain easily discernable evidence of something that they mentioned in said article.
     
  4. Lord Garth

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    Romulans were the main conventional adversary in TNG. It would be silly to not mention what happened to them at all in the Picard Series. And just because that was the catalyst to change the direction Picard takes with his life, doesn't mean Romulus is going to be the focus of the series. It could be "This is what he's been up to for the last 12 years, and this is where we see him before the real story starts" which might be something else.

    Mulder and Scully were both in different places at the beginning of The X-Files Season 10 before they got them back together. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were in different places at the beginning of TMP before they got back together. Most likely, they're just showing what Picard's been up to before the story moves him some place else, which is where the real focus of the Picard Series will be. Whatever it is.

    It seems like the complaints leveled toward the Picard Series will be the same as the ones leveled against Discovery. I saw this coming a while ago. In fact, let me cut-and-paste something of mine from October.

    Here's exactly what I said on October 9, 2018...

    Spoiler Alert: The Picard Series won't be a blank slate either. If you think having all the TOS stuff in DSC is bad, just wait until we have a series that takes place in 2399. You haven't seen anything yet. This is nothing. It's only going to get "worse" because now TNG, DS9, and VOY will be in play too.

    For this reason, I'm pretty sure I'll prefer DSC over the Picard Series. Like 99.999% sure. But I'm not going to throw a fit just because the series will use stuff that's already there. I'm expecting them to. It'll just be a matter of how well they use it.
     
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  5. Jadeb

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    I think your last sentence is correct. And I do think the Romulans have a lot of unexplored potential. They were never as interesting on TNG as they could have been.
     
  6. DaveyNY

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    I was thinking ... (I know a dangerous precedent) ... with all these new shows coming,
    It would be pretty cool for sometime in the future to have an ongoing storyline that crosses over to all of the shows on All Access.
    Like they have done in the novels on several occasions.
    I'd actually consider getting a subscription for something like that.
    :cool:
     
  7. Tomalak

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    They're damned either way. Fans will get pouty if they ignored canon, others will complain they're rehashing by *checks notes* showing a familiar character in a setting we've never seen before.

    Let's wait and see the show before starting the bitching, eh?
     
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  8. Jadeb

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    I don't think the concern is unwarranted, TBH. Kurtzman's involvement in the franchise has relied on a LOT of fannish navelgazing. We had the reboot, which was a fine conceit to establish a foundation for new adventures. But then, instead of giving us something new, they brought back Khan, which sucked. Then they gave us a TOS prequel, also fine. But then that prequel spent its entire first season on a painfully boring Klingon war and a fannish trip to the MU, with Harry Mudd thrown in. Now we're getting a season revolving around Spock and Pike, and they're talking about a Picard series that may revolve around a minor plot point from a 10-year-old Kurtzman movie. At this point, I'm ready for some Star Trek that isn't about previous Star Trek.
     
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  9. Tuskin38

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    The only way to do that would be a complete reboot, or set it centuries after Nemesis.
     
  10. CorporalClegg

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    How is one of the four major power capitals being obliterated a minor plot point?

    It's the kind of event that would have massive geopolitical ramifications that reverberate for decades or even centuries.

    **It would surely affect any plot/story that took place after it - even for a show like Picard runs around the galaxy playing Danny Jackson.
     
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    In the real world we're STILL dealing with ramifications of the fall of the Soviet Union 30 years later.
     
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  12. Jadeb

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    I really don't think that’s the case. Star Trek IV built on what happened in II and III but still did something totally different. The 23rd century is no more out of stories than the 21st is.

    I don’t mean to suggest it was without consequence in-universe, but it was not the major thrust of that movie. I had forgotten it happened, as online discussion makes me think other fans had.
     
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  13. CorporalClegg

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    Admittedly, I'm ready for a complete reboot. I kinda wish Disco had been one, in hindsight.
     
  14. Lord Garth

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    I didn't. I immediately wondered, back in 2009, how it would effect the Prime Timeline. At the time, I didn't think we'd actually ever see it, but I did wonder about it. When they announced there would be a sixth live-action Star Trek series at the end of 2015, that's what I initially thought they were going to do before we started hearing about what the sixth series would actually be. So, basically, we're getting what I expected except I was one series off in my guess and I didn't think it would star Picard.

    And we still don't know what the main story will be about. All this is, that we know of, is Picard's backstory. TMP wasn't about Kirk's two-and-a-half years at Starfleet Operations. It wasn't the journey Spock underwent to (almost) achieve Kholinar. It was just set-up.

    It's no surprise that this tidbit was revealed. With Star Trek 4 shelved, this is TPTB's way of letting people know the Kelvin Films won't be forgotten. They still have an impact on Star Trek.
     
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  15. CorporalClegg

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    I don't think it was a small part of the film either. The meld scene was the heaviest of the entire main [post title card] film. And the whole point was Nero recreating the event with Vulcan and Earth.
     
  16. pst

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    have to disagree there. the "news" about star trek 4 being shelved comes after the announcement that its director has moved on to the game of thrones prequel/spinoff. there's been no solid information about the film in months, all the reporting about it being cancelled stems from one quote about it being "shelved".

    also, it wasn't leaked. kurtzman offered this information in the interview with the hollywood reporter.

    however, it might signal a willingness to embrace the kelvin films' impact on TV in way i had previously assumed wouldn't occur due to rights. i hope there's more.
     
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  17. Lord Garth

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    Not where I was going with that but you're right. I've reworded the last paragraph of my previous post.
     
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  18. eschaton

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    That's because they created the Cardassians, which are basically the exact same species/empire in terms of temperament and threat, just with slightly different makeup.
     
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  19. Lord Garth

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    The irony about the whole situation is the Romulans took the least amount of damage during the Dominion War only to have their home planet blown up.
     
  20. CorporalClegg

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    Cardies and Rommies are very different. Cardassia is all about the state. It's fascism and totalitarianism. The Romulans are pure imperial doctrine. They represent the purest form of manifest destiny.

    For Romulans, the state is a means to the end. For Cardassians, the state is the end.
     
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